Hillary Clinton vs George Bush

August 15, 2007 at 6:06 am 128 comments

With her new campaign ad that is critical of President Bush, Senator Hillary Clinton got just what she wanted: a fight with the White House.

“If you’re a family that is struggling and you don’t have health care, you are invisible to this president,” the New York senator says in the ad. “If you’re a single mom trying to find affordable child care so you can go to work, you’re invisible too.The ad also argued that U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan are “invisible” to Bush.

This was a smart move by Clinton that allows her to soften her image with an ad showing her caring for the people left behind by the Bush administration at the same time that she picks a fight with Bush that further enables her contrast herself with failed Republican policies. Of course, Bush officials being the sensitive souls that they are took the bait.

White House spokesperson Dana Perino acted all offended and called the ad “outrageous.”

At a campaign stop in Iowa, Clinton used the Bush administration’s predictable response to her advantage.

“Apparently I’ve struck a nerve. The White House just attacked me a few minutes ago,” Clinton said. “Not only have I said it and am saying it, I will keep saying it because I happen to believe it.”


Entry filed under: 2008 Election, Campaigns, Democrats, George Bush, Hillary Clinton, Politics.

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  • 1. phil_in_ny  |  August 15, 2007 at 6:52 am

    She’s right. I think the ad is effective at making the TRUE points of failed and harmful policy.

  • 2. Charlie  |  August 15, 2007 at 7:34 am

    There is not a person on the planet more self centered than Hillary Clinton.
    Everything she says and does is contrived……..
    She is very dangerous to this country.

  • 3. phil_in_ny  |  August 15, 2007 at 9:15 am

    I couldn’t disagree with you more Charlie.

  • 4. michael  |  August 15, 2007 at 9:19 am

    Charlie is stupid!

  • 5. Kate  |  August 15, 2007 at 9:28 am

    Charlie is absolutely right. Those who believe anything Hillary says completely ignore the Clintons’ (ongoing) history history of lying and self-promotion.

  • 6. Bloggernista  |  August 15, 2007 at 9:28 am

    Charlie, what’s dangerous to the country is a president who repeatedly seeks to undermine the Constitution and destroy our civil liberties.

  • 7. Akinola Akiwowo  |  August 15, 2007 at 9:33 am

    It’s about time! At least Hillary has the courage to take “them” on, the current admnistration has been not only a disgrace to us Americans, they have also been succesful in letting the world laugh at us.

    Hillary, please continue to give them hell!

  • 8. Brad  |  August 15, 2007 at 10:01 am

    The best part about it is that barely anyone had heard of the commercial before the White House morons flipped out over it. Way to shoot yourselves in the foot!

    “…history of lying and self-promotion.” compared to…? The Bush White House? One shouldn’t have to say it, but apparently you have to hammer it home to some schmucks: lying about war is infinitely worse than lying about a blowjob. What part of that is difficult for the winger tribe to understand?

  • 9. glen B  |  August 15, 2007 at 10:03 am

    Hillary is fantastic. What a great President she would be.
    Way to go Hillary!!!

  • 10. Bloggernista  |  August 15, 2007 at 10:10 am

    Clinton definitely understands the political game and plays it very well.

  • 11. Armando  |  August 15, 2007 at 10:10 am

    ROCK THE HILL’ 08′

    Hillary IS the next president of the United States.

  • 12. Barb  |  August 15, 2007 at 10:16 am


    You go, girl! I have supported Bill from the first time he ran for president, never waning in that support and I now support you. After many years struggling as a single mother, I got my education because it was a world in which we could. I see my own children struggling now, to work for less than what they should to pay for that child care you speak of. Despite the fact my son-in-law works like a dog 60 hours a week, has worked his way up in his company, and does make a barely liveable wage, I buy his family’s healthcare insurance because his share if he bought it via his company would be 850.00 a month and they could not buy it and still live. I have wealthy people in my family. I’m not doing bad myself now, but I have poor people in my family too, and this is why I pay for their health insurance. To be sure they can get much needed medical care. I help my other daughter pay for her child care because here in the SF Bay, it’s more than 1k a month. How could any young woman trying to go to school, work, and make it pay for this????

    You are dead on in your statements. We here at my organization I work for all support you and love you, as do my converted Republican family members. You are the only one with the guts, the stamina, and the experience in this presidential race to run this country effectively and pull us out of the mess we are in.

  • 13. Lisa  |  August 15, 2007 at 10:21 am

    Charlie’s comment is worth repeating, over and over again, “There is not a person on the planet more self centered than Hillary Clinton. Everything she says and does is contrived……..She is very dangerous to this country.” Amen!

  • 14. dea123  |  August 15, 2007 at 10:22 am

    I’m just tired of negative ads, I want to know what she will do, and not just on conversation points but a clear plan!!! I would like to be her supporter but so far I don’t see anything to persuade me, I’m not voting on someone just because the other candidates don’t look good, I want to vote on someone that I believe will be the next best president. This hatred has to stop!!!

  • 15. adam  |  August 15, 2007 at 10:27 am

    It’s funny how people are so quick to accuse Bush of every problem that this country faces. Or that each individual faces!! It is not the Presidents or the government’s job to treat us like babies. We are given every opportunity to be successful…failure is a personal choice. So no matter who the president is you have to do some things on your own!!!!!!!! AND CHARLIE IS SO RIGHT!!!!!!!!

  • 16. Not a whiner  |  August 15, 2007 at 10:29 am

    Give me a break with all the whining! Childcare in this country is free enterprise, the cost determined by demand just like anything else. Why should the government control that too? Why not make me pay for it, although I already raised my kids and paid for their daycare like everybody else? Why don’t I pay for your healthcare too? I struggle just as much as anybody but I don’t see the value in the government getting involved in every single nitpicking thing I struggle to afford. I would be more interested in knowing her stance on the Fair Tax Act. But no, that would mean everybody would pay according to what they spent, even illegal aliens. I say let ’em in, let ’em work, let ’em pay tax on every dime they spend just like me. Of course that would do away with “earned income credit”, wouldn’t it? I’m so tired of the whining going on in this country it sickens me.

  • 17. Butterfly  |  August 15, 2007 at 10:35 am

    Why didn’t she take care of healthcare the 8 years she was in the White House as she originally promised?

  • 18. allen  |  August 15, 2007 at 10:55 am

    hillary is the ebst all the way- you go girl

  • 19. allen  |  August 15, 2007 at 10:55 am

    u go girl -ur the ebst candiate in dem so far.

  • 20. Ryan  |  August 15, 2007 at 11:04 am

    Someone asked “why is everyone so quick to blame Bush for everything that goes wrong in this country?” Well the answer is simple. HE IS TO BLAME. He never once in his term did anything to benefit this country or its people. He did mostly the exact opposite. And how can you call HC self centered and not Bush? Lets talk about cronyism and Scooter Libby, or Roves play in the whole plume escapade and how Bush specifically said “anyone involved would be terminated from their position immediatly.” Straight up lie. I believe in the Clintons. In the 90s they created jobs, not ship them to other countries. I am blue collar and I believe they will help me and the majority of people in this country get a bit closer to the american dream rather than how the current administration has taken us 8 steps backwards.

  • 21. BARRETT  |  August 15, 2007 at 11:08 am

    Icant believe how many mindless idiots are out there that can honestly come on here and try to discredit anything that hillary has said ,the poor are invisible to the entire bush administration ,i for one have been buying gasoline on my credit card just to be able to make ends meet and there are the rich snobby pricks who say get a better job well if everybody had better jobs who would do your dirty work you morons everybody has a place in society and i have accepted mine but that doesnt mean my family should have to suffer with inferior health care or that our children should have to go to iraq and fight for g.w. bushs oil

  • 22. callong  |  August 15, 2007 at 11:11 am

    I agree it is so much easier to recognize the “splinter”” in another’s eye when the “”log ” in one’s eye is ignored. I can’t imagine that one man has all the power to control every aspect of our country. People are given programs to better themselves, but attitude and work ethic has changed. The one’s who are invisible are the one’s who want an automatic pass go and collect $200. Some people do not want to work for there part, why have we got more “”invisible” now when our economy is so strong when 40-50 years ago when we were struggling, people acutally WORKED and it was a stigma if you were on the “welfare dole” The seniors are a different demographic, yes we need to take care for them, but there are programs starting to help. We just have greed from the Corps.

    As far as the troops, I still cannot understand why they were called invisible. being a vet and close to the main Stryker Brigade, I shake my head at those who speak FOR the troops instead of LISTENING to the troops
    I do not know who I will choose to cast my vote yet, however choosing someone just because it is time for a woman is very dangerous, I guess with Hillary, we would get a 2fer. Billary will be rearing it’s ugly head.

    We can always count on one thing; that there will be more rhetoric to come…..

  • 23. Frank  |  August 15, 2007 at 11:14 am

    Hillary is right with her statements.

    Is she right for this country. At this point I am undecided. I do know one thing. It is time to switch leadership in this country. We need a decocrat or independent instead of the lying republicans in office. It is time to get the criminals out of the executive offices.

  • 24. Techy66  |  August 15, 2007 at 11:16 am

    If anyone expects a politician to define what they will do when in office, it will be a long wait. The President can present many agenda items but they are at the mercy of the Congress and Lobbyists. If we really want to fix this country, we have to attack the process and eliminate Lobbyists and hold accountable our represetatives in Congress. How about limiting a house member to 3 terms and a Senete member to 2 terms? This will eliminate the “power” of the old Washington cronies. – just a thought

  • 25. Hank Toombs  |  August 15, 2007 at 11:21 am

    The benefit as I see it is that we will get 2 for the price of one. As morally bankrupt as Bill Clinton was, he is still a brilliant mind and in spite of everything, he was still a good president. He lied about a blowjob and paid the price. Get over it! At least our constitutional rights weren’t violated. And the Whitewater thing…it sure wasn’t anything like the Haliburton thing. Only the extremely wealthy have benefitted from King George’s reign. I say let’s get the most bang for our buck and elect Hillary to the whitehouse.

  • 26. smokeyhiker  |  August 15, 2007 at 11:28 am

    senator Clinton will be a bad president because she wants to pull out troops fast. The problem with that would be the terrorist would bring the war to us using a varity of wmd. When 9/11 happened, everybody wanted to retaliate fast. But, Bush said it would take a long war, and said that right before the war happened. If you want peace, prepare for war.

  • 27. callong  |  August 15, 2007 at 11:34 am

    techy66, hear, hear. how will Hillary bring the bipartisanship together? comments please

  • 28. fitnessfortheoccasion  |  August 15, 2007 at 11:43 am

    Nice! A sharp attack and a ready response! This is a great move on Hillary’s part.

  • 29. pokerdiary  |  August 15, 2007 at 11:48 am

    You cant completely drop ongoing works and start new !!. Same thing with america right now. Remember war of 1812 Except extremist no one supported that sure to loose war but we succeded and and it contributed to build rich image of America.

    Bush started same war, This time the difference “War is NOT sure to loose WAR”. Bush initiated new view towards international movement specially upraising movement from islamic world — Though he manipulated it to be more than what it seems. But this is a game and there is nothing about fairness in it. Beside just problem of Hilary and Bush we need some one who could understand Bush’s movement support and redirect it to proper direction so that the outcome is benifitial to the great country.

    I dont support war, Neither i support Bush what america need right now is reinitiation of strong domestic development that america saw in Bill Clinton’s time. But we should take care this point as well that Bush’s view should not be dropped completely for any reasons because at this futile time our own move started after 9-11 could hunt ourself back.

    I believe some one with Bush and Clinton’s nature can start off this session.

  • 30. Bloggernista  |  August 15, 2007 at 11:50 am

    I give Clinton much credit for this. It shows that she and her team are smart and serious. By leading in the polls, she is also in the position of drawing distinctions between her positions and the failed policies of the Bush administration. Edwards and Obama are drawing contrasts with Clinton in order to boost their poll numbers.

  • 31. devildog6771  |  August 15, 2007 at 11:54 am

    The biggest problem we have as a nation is that people get an idea or thought fixed in their mind but they never really research to see if they are really getting all they need for a good decision. I always supported Hilliary. Then I accidently found somethings about her that didn’t fit my image of her. I ignored them as politics. Then I checked them out for myself.

    Want to know who and what to expect with her then look up the Shadow party, her role in the Watergate prosecution, her own “mini government” in place at one of her organizations, read about her relationship [strictly ideological] with George Soros. While you’re at it look up Bernie Sanders during the Clinton years and what he signed and what he didn’t, check Thomas at the Library of Congress and see the wording of the Clinton plan to attack Iraq with Congressional approval that was basicly identical to Bush’s plan, read about the sale of the facilities at both ends of the Panama Canal to the Chinese and the attempted sale of one of our closed facilities to China by Clinton, and so on and so on, and so on…

    My observation, be careul what you ask for, you might get it.

    As for Hilliary’s Health Plan, it died when it was discovered she had formed a secret committee outside the proper committee to set up this great health care package of socialized medicine.Sher leans heavily towards Socialists agenda and He is a “Globalists. He doesn’t believe in national pride, etc. She believes in no private ownership. I say send them both to Russia and if they finally get a working model then they can try to shove it down my throat.

    Millions have died for this “utopia” and “equalized” economic government they are all pushing. I have a plan. Instead of those jerks getting to be millionaires off of trying to sell the world this crap, why don’t they spread out their millions to everyone else so we and they can all have equal incomes and then let them really work like everyone else and tell me then how much they like no private property and an equalized economy.

    So far all I have read her with her supporters is is the “party” line with a big red flag behind it but no real solutions. Questions answered with questions and finger pointing with no supporting substance. This former Democrat no longer follows any party blindly.

  • 32. gardenqueen  |  August 15, 2007 at 12:01 pm

    Clinton got a blow job, Bush has killed nearly 70 thousand people. How can you even compare them?

  • 33. Jessica  |  August 15, 2007 at 12:03 pm

    HILLARY 08!

    This country needs a Hillary Clinton. I believe she get’s it!! Our Nation needs and deserves a leader who is NOT one sided. Hillary has always promoted an agenda which addressed this country’s domestic, economic and health issues as well as our position and role in the global community. She is not hung up on her ego as our current Presdient is. She is intelligent, wize, savy and compassionate. In short she is EVERTHING our current President is NOT!

    I supported BIll during his two terms and as First Lady I supported her even when she was critizied for decisions which were personnal in nature. I always felt her decisions were made in consideration of her role as First Lady and how it would impact not just herself but the Nation. That my fellow American’s are the signs of a true leader! It is her time to lead and it up to us who support her to make sure that happens!

    We Need Hillary Clinton.

    Jessica, Esq.

  • 34. Aliv1  |  August 15, 2007 at 12:05 pm

    techy66: The state I live in has term limits for the state legislature. The referendum was passed with the expectation that it would limit the power of lobbyists. Not only was that goal not achieved, but now we’ve lost all the senior representatives and their vast experience with the workings of government. Consequently, very little gets done by our legislature, and there are way too many initiatives on each ballot. So our taxes are supporting a legislature, but we voters are making the laws. The result is laws that conflict with one another, wording that must be interpreted or clarified by the state supreme court, and a state constitution that is about 20x longer than our Constitution (many of our initiatives have “amended” our state constitution). I did not support term limits then, I do not support term limits now. I don’t want to lose the vast experience in Congress of people like Ted Kennedy and others of both parties who’ve been around a long time and understand how government really works.

  • 35. Mia  |  August 15, 2007 at 12:07 pm

    Hillary you are hungry for power. It’s ludicrous to believe that a woman should lead this country. God (Jesus) put men as the head & women as the helpmeet. A woman is his companion/partner. Jesus put woman beside the man not to be submissive to abuse, but to be submissive in the way that men should be the leaders & that his spouse should be supportive! IN RETURN, the man should love his wife as he does the church (Christ). Does Bill love Christ? When was the last time you both prayed to Him together?

    Hillary, you support: abortion – which is murder; homosexuality – this is a choice, people are not born this way; you think families should be raised by the “Village” … come on! None of these things is biblical.

    Hillary YOU ARE consumed with evil ideas & you are power hungry…Tell Satan to BACK OFF! You, & your administration, INTENTIONALLY put John Kerry as the butt of a bad joke, intentionally made him a ‘flip flop’ because you knew you couldn’t beat Bush in the last election…so you had Kerry set up so you could run this time. Not a very nice thing to do…not at all!

    Hillary, are you a Christian? If so, then you are my sister in Christ & I am using that authority to ask you to check yourself! Go back to the basics Hillary! I wish you the best, really I do – but, I cannot support a person whom I feel should never be in that authoritative position, but most of all that supports killing unborn babies.

    I will pray for you to do the right thing and make loving decisions for the benefit of the people, not your benefit! You will not have my vote for the presidency – I will vote for the man whoever it is, that I feel is first a Christian then has similar beliefs to mine.

  • 36. Jessica  |  August 15, 2007 at 12:08 pm

    To Lisa who agreed with Charlie:

    You say Hillary is dangerous to this country. Lord Oh Mighty! I invoke the Lord’s name because I don’t know how anyone in this country or anyone in the world for that matter can say that about any candidate running for President, especially Hillary Clinton after the DISASTER of a President we have had to suffer and endure for the last 7 or so years!!! Where have you been??? I would need the Lord’s divin intervention to understand how anyone could believe that Hillary is a danger to this country especially given our current President’s performance.

  • 37. ArtieJoe68  |  August 15, 2007 at 12:18 pm

    This is precisely why Hillary is the best choice to take on the right-wing machine. Perino took the bait just like she was supposed to. Now the media (mainstream and right wing) will cover the story from all angles…………There’s no good or bad publicity, only PUBLICITY.

    Keep it up Hillary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 38. LRice  |  August 15, 2007 at 12:26 pm

    To Mia: You could not be more wrong! You and Mr. Bush give us more motivation to elect Hillary. I think it is wonderful that such a smart, powerful, and strong leader is running for president!!

    P.S. Lay off the lezbos and abortion it has already been done!!

    Run Hill Run

    Yours truly
    Leasha a.k.a. lezbo that votes 😉

  • 39. Vince  |  August 15, 2007 at 12:26 pm

    “If you’re a family that is struggling and you don’t have health care, you are invisible to this president,”

    Therefore you should force ME to pay for your family’s health care instead.

    “If you’re a single mom trying to find affordable child care so you can go to work, you’re invisible too.”

    Maybe you should have been a little more responsible before you had a kid you can’t care for. Hey, I didn’t knock you up so why do you expect me to pay for your childcare? Take responsibility for a situation that was created by irresponsible decisions you made, but don’t steal my money to do it.

  • 40. s.hall  |  August 15, 2007 at 12:45 pm

    I support Hillary Clinton because she is comfortable in her own skin and I know if she is President it won’t be terror talk 24/7. To her, the ordinary American won’t be invisible–we will matter. For 6-1/2 years the current President has talked about terror to the exclusion of everything else. Our country has been on auto-pilot and as a result our infrastructure is rotting. Our jobs are being shipped overseas and record numbers of Americans are going bankrupt because they can’t afford healthcare. As Bill Clinton said recently–as a nation we can walk and chew gum at the same time. We need to get our own house in order before we tell the rest of the world to follow our lead.

  • 41. notforhillary  |  August 15, 2007 at 12:47 pm

    Bogus Bogus Bogus! She is lying people. Just look at all the “invisible” people on Minnesota Care, SCHIP and MN Medical Assistance!! Who are these :”have-nots”? If they “have-not” because they are not working, then get a job Bud! The upper 20% of working people pay well over 75% of the taxes!! Guess what types of people are in the upper 20%? Working families with Children, Thats who. We are the true Invisible ones!!!
    I am tired of liberals taking away my hard earned, highly sacrificed income and “redistributing” in the form of ” government services” and “aid” to those who chose not to work because its easier to get a hand out!

  • 42. vdur  |  August 15, 2007 at 12:50 pm

    First, to pokerdiary: Nothing in your message made sense. Can you reiterate with better spelling, punctuation and sentence structure?

    Second, to smokyhiker: Our current president has demonstrated, over and over and over again, that ALL of the American people are “invisible” to him. We are in a war that has gone on for too long – this message, from all walks of American life, has been clear; however Bush, in his infinite arrogance, continues to do what he wants. It scares me to think of what further damage this president can do in the time he has left in office.

    Third, to callong: What Hillary is quoted as saying is, “If you’re a family that is struggling and you don’t have health care, you are invisible to this president,” …… “If you’re a single mom trying to find affordable child care so you can go to work, you’re invisible too.”

    I didn’t see anything in Hillary’s comments regarding people on welfare (funny how people hear what they want). She was referring to the “poor”, who have always existed in this country (remember the Great Depression). People aren’t always poor because they are lazy and want a free ride (that way of thinkings sounds suspiciously Republican). I have always struggled and have never collected welfare. I came from a family that struggled too, and not one of us has collected welfare. Please, think before your judge. WWJD

  • 43. Jeanette  |  August 15, 2007 at 12:53 pm

    I’m a Hilary Clinton supporter and proud of it!!!

    What I’m not proud of is this “me” generation who haven’t done much but be greedy and complain about helping all americans. Time and time again when the democrats talk about how most American feel overlooked by this administration.

    That’s why I thought Hilary ad was so effective and on the mark with her invisible quote because most American have been invisible to the president and if you didn’t think so all you have to do was look at Katrina, the housing crisis, energy and Iraq.

  • 44. mattdabbs  |  August 15, 2007 at 12:57 pm

    Is anyone else tired of republicans and democrats alike who are only out to serve themselves/get re-elected and will say anything to get elected regardless of how accurate or effective it is?

    I am tired of people who love themselves and their shot at re-election more than they love America. We have a broken system.

  • 45. smokeyhiker  |  August 15, 2007 at 1:00 pm

    To me I think her credibilaty is way thin.
    She talks alot of crap , but can she back it up it up? It can makes you wonder what her motives really are….

  • 46. transstranger  |  August 15, 2007 at 1:07 pm

    I totally agree with “devildog6771″s opinion. All I have to add is that Hillary Clinton will do anything it takes to get herself elected, no scruples.

  • 47. notforhillary  |  August 15, 2007 at 1:10 pm

    To mattdabbs
    Yes, I am tired of reps and dems who, once elected, become self-serving whores. It is really hard to stay true to your values and really represent your constiuents when there is so much corruption in DC, or St. Paul…insert your Capitol here!!
    To vdur
    The poor in this country has access to a multitude of “services”, unfortunately, these services end up enslaving people more than helping them.

  • 48. Jan  |  August 15, 2007 at 1:17 pm

    Juust like her husband, Hillary Clinton is a genius. I seriously cannot wait for her to be our President.

    For the military folks here, I served under President Clinton. We didn’t go into wars under Clinton that we couldn’t win. We went into wars with the international community, and we really did honestly PREVAIL.
    [GWB; May 1, 2003; “Major combat operations in Iraq are over, the mission is accomplished, and America and her allies have PREVAILED.”]
    So, what part of Bill Clinton as Commander-in-Chief didn’t you like?

    President Clinton, upon leaving office, warned EVERY SINGLE BUSH OFFICIAL that America had only ONE enemy that they needed to concern themselves with over the next four years — a guy who declared WAR on the United States of America named Osama Bin Laden.

    And what did our new Commander-in-Chief do?
    He took his eye OFF of Bin Laden and he instead invaded Iraq!!!!

    In addition, our troops are currently being killed by insurgients. And what did our “brave” Commander-in-Chief have to say a few years back when warned about these emerging insurgients?

    This is The Worst President Ever!
    Are you better off now than you were eight years ago? Not for anyone who’s invisible… as most of us are to this utterly incompetent administration.

    We need another Clinton to clean up after another Bush.
    And then we can hand the keys over to a new generation, led by President Barack Obama.

  • 49. gizzarro  |  August 15, 2007 at 1:23 pm

    You know I read all of these negative statements about Hillary & I wonder how many of the people writing them has lost a relative to this absurdly obvious pointless war. How many has been turned away from a hospital or dr. office because they just don’t have the money to pay for it? how many of them is having to spend 60 % or more of their paychecks on childcare? This idiot that is running our grat nation is doing nothing more than selling us & our children out so that he & his friends can line their own pockets. I believe in free economy but not at the expense of peoples lives. Is it any wonder that we literally have people in our country with nothing. If you look around you will see that everything is getting worse. Personnally I think Hillary Is the only one of the candidates with the intestinal fortitude to speak out about the dumbass that running our country . Although that is not the reason I support her. I support her because I listen to what she has to say & happen to agree with most of it. I support her because I want my constitutional rights protected, not thrown out for someones personal agenda. You might say Dumbass doesn’t have a personal agenda. to this I answer,where is the wmd’s, how free & happy are the iraqi people,I personally don’t of anyone who is happy & free that feels they have to blow up most of theri country just to kick us out. If they are happy & free why are our men & women still there dieing . it doesn’t hold true only a moron could support this president or anyone linked to him. There has been scandal after scandel & still nothing has been done to him or anybody involved. this has to stop he needs to once finally be held accountable for his actions.

  • 50. gizzarro  |  August 15, 2007 at 1:29 pm

    oh yeah I forgot to mention the hurricane victims who are still displaced after all this time simply because the war is more important how is that for invisibility. I say go Hillary

  • 51. amazed  |  August 15, 2007 at 1:30 pm

    Finally, finally, finally. The best way to win the Presidency, not simply the nomination, is to show the average American the difference between a Democratic Presidency and the poor excuse that we have been forced to live with for far too long.

    Congratulations to Senator Clinton for taking the high road. The day that all Democrats stop attacking one another and become united against this administration and the far right that it represents is the day that we win our country and our government back.

    Go Hillary.

  • 52. TONE-D  |  August 15, 2007 at 1:32 pm



  • 53. mattdabbs  |  August 15, 2007 at 1:35 pm


    We didn’t go into wars under Bill that we couldn’t win. You are right. We went into a war in Somalia that we could have won. Then look what happened. That helped build a reputation that led to 9/11. Not so smart. If we are going to fight. We have to fight to win. Period. Republican or democrat doesn’t matter. America does.

  • 54. Loki  |  August 15, 2007 at 1:42 pm

    Of course Hillary is running high in the polls! Just look at some of her competition…a pretty boy trial lawyer who served a mere 2 years in the senate, a charismatic junior senator from Illinois with no clue regarding foreign policy, a vegan dwarf from Ohio…to name just a few.

    The Democrats in general are all for BIG government. They live to poke their noses into every aspect of our lives because they know, better than we do, what’s best for all of us. They will raise your taxes to pay for social programs that cater to a “special” few.

    The only true responsibility our government has is to protect and defend the citizens of our country. Hillary has a reputation for despising the military. She once tried to ban military uniforms in the White House but was over ruled for national security reasons.

    Hillary wants government sponsored health care for everyone. How different is that from Socialism? Do you really want to wait 6 months to 3 years for a mammogram, an MRI, hip replacement surgery, chemo therapy? That’s what they do in Canada and the UK.

    Have you looked at your school taxes lately? Our government spends a freakin’ fortune educating our kids…and they still come out of school dumb as dirt. BUT, they now understand the correct way to put a condom on a cucumber, that homosexuality is “a good thing” and all Americans are imperialistic war mongers…especially our current President.

    Bush Derangement Syndrome (with assistance of a biased MSM) has led people to believe that GWB is single handedly responsible for every bad thing that has ever happened on the planet. With the help of Karl Rove he planned 9/11, engineered hurricane Katrina, arranged for a tsunami to wipe out parts of Asia, caused the bridge to collapse in Minneapolis, and plunged 6 miners in Utah to their almost certain death. WOW! He must be Superman in cowboy boots!

    I truly shudder to think what our great country will become with Hillary at the helm.

  • 55. TONE-D  |  August 15, 2007 at 1:43 pm





  • 56. Dangerous Dave  |  August 15, 2007 at 1:45 pm

    How can I be simultaneously “invisible” to the Bush administration while they are at the same time doing warrantless wiretaps on me? Explain that to me. Quite frankly, why do I need to be visible to the government? Do I need a good babysitting? Is Hillary running for prez or for head nanny?

  • 57. notforhillary  |  August 15, 2007 at 1:50 pm

    You said it Loki!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 58. notforhillary  |  August 15, 2007 at 1:51 pm

    To Tone-D
    I only live in fear as to what the dems will do if they get more power.

  • 59. Frank from Minneapolis  |  August 15, 2007 at 1:54 pm

    What scares me about Hillary supporters is the lack of real, specific and valid reasons for supporting her. When I read things like “Clinton got a blow job, Bush has killed nearly 70 thousand people,” or “I support Hillary Clinton because she is comfortable in her own skin,” or even this guys on TV saying he likes Hillary because “she is for the people.” I am a Canadian citizen permanent resident whom cannot vote in federal elections; I implore you people: please tell me you are not going to pin the future of the most powerful nation in the world on such irrelevant and mindless justifications! Please, don’t support a candidate just because you hate George Bush! Get off that bandwagon! Find the facts, make up yourt own mind, and vote for the candidate you find most honest and forthcoming with their position about the things you care for. Hillary Clinton won’t answer any tough questions for fear of offending anyone. Her convictions are flaky and skin deep. Her positions on issues change like her accents; but in some way they are the same: lousy.

  • 60. Dave  |  August 15, 2007 at 1:55 pm

    well who the hell does the republicans have? an x-mayor that did squat during 9-11, who now is concerned about immagration. What a joke…. there more immagrants in New York than anywhere. In addition, Guliani’s own daughter doesn’t support him, she supports Obama. and who else do they have…. ummm..
    mc cain…. who has tried in the last ten elections.

    hilary all the way to the white house!!!!

  • 61. Ineeza Smoke  |  August 15, 2007 at 1:59 pm

    wow-for anyone living in the modern world…if you really believe that ordinary people are invisible to any politician…well, wake up! Dems and Reps they all see the backs of the poor, middle class citizens that they dupe into voting for them. they look at your back when they’re stabbing you in it, treading upon it, or ‘whatever’ else it is that they want to ‘slip’ into you on they’re way up and over! sad, but true

  • 62. Dennis  |  August 15, 2007 at 2:10 pm

    Hillary is a joke, she has no clue of whats going on in this world right now she definitely will NOT be the next president.

  • 63. TONE-D  |  August 15, 2007 at 2:11 pm

    to notforhilary…

    you must make 6 figures and is in la la land or you may be poor and on drugs because you have no idea what your talking about. Bush has done nothing for me except raised my dad’s medication prices….

  • 64. notforhillary  |  August 15, 2007 at 2:17 pm

    And higher drug prices is Bush’s fault?
    I do know what I am talking about, you socialist!

  • 65. Monk  |  August 15, 2007 at 2:30 pm

    Nothing the Clintons did in their past could ever compare to the Oil War, 3,500 dead, 10,000 wounded, 200,000 dead civilians and the loss of our civil liberties. Not to mention corruption, corruption, corruption of the Bush Mafia.

  • 66. callong  |  August 15, 2007 at 2:31 pm

    Loki, well said, I agree. I still do not hear anything about her drawing the two parties, oops indies together, I appreciate any canidate who is looking to be a team player instead of pointing out that their policies are the only valid ones.

    I am afraid I was one of those “invisible” for 4 years. small construction contractor working on projects for the govt… NOW NOW do not say it. we only had 40 employees, WE provided the healthcare for our guys and families, no help from the govt, yes the system failed us after 9/11 all of the monies went to the “war effort” we had to close and we went bankrupt, our guys out of work and my wife who is an RN suffered a disability. We had nothing, sold our house to pay our vendors, medical costs and no insurance. Yes I picked up some jobs, but you know what we are still paying on the medical bills, driving a used car, renting. Cannot get a house or credit, but we are now finally realizing that paying “cash” makes us more prudent and happier. So yeah, we may not be the typical American. I wonder if GWB or HC could have prevented our situation? I guess we had to take some individual accountablility.
    I just want to see that the working poor are taken into a govt program and that they will be considered better taken care of than they are now. People complain the govt’ is in too much of our “stuff” but what happpens when dems generate more gov’t run programs???

  • 67. CO  |  August 15, 2007 at 2:48 pm

    Apparently Mrs. Clinton (is she still married to the adulturer) is confused. She thinks she is running against George W Bush. She should know that his term will expire and taking him on politically (at this point) is a waste of her time. Of course… she’s probably okay with wasting her time. Maybe she should concentrate her efforts on Obama & friends. She’s acting like she is bypassing the political process and claiming victory in the Democratic Primaries. What a shame… the first woman to seriously run for the Presidency is such a disgrace. Socialist unite… Stalin is out and Clinton is in.

  • 68. Von  |  August 15, 2007 at 2:58 pm

    Anyone who would follow a Clinton has been blinded by all the lies and deception that they are known for and prone too. Making sure their family members don’t have to pay for the wrongs they have done. Shameful and sinful ways are not my ways. Hillary… NOT IN A MILLION YEARS!!!!!!!

  • 69. A Moree  |  August 15, 2007 at 3:06 pm

    I cannot believe you blind loyalists to the Clintons. B Clinton was the head of what is, argubly, the most corrupt administration in the history of these United States! Healthcare reform? What did the Clintons do about healthcare in the 8 years that they were in office? Blame 9/11 on Bush? This tragedy may not have happened if Clinton had done his job! Bin Laden was practically handed to BC on a silver platter. He refused. The USS Cole? Marine barrack attack in Beirut? Whitewater? Allegations of rape and violence against women?

    You don’t believe that GWB has done anything to help this country (you are wrong). The Clintons did nothing but self-promote themselves!

  • 70. metaljaybird  |  August 15, 2007 at 3:15 pm

    She’ll be just as bad if not worse then Bush. I love Vox Day’s title reserved especially for Hillary:

    The Lizard Queen.

    Right he is. I can’t believe there are actually supporters of the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton chain. They all belong to the same special interests groups.

    Study Ron Paul.

  • 71. smokeyhiker  |  August 15, 2007 at 3:17 pm

    Well Bill clinton had known where bin ladan was and failed to capure him. Is that going to to happen to us with senator clinton? Thats kind of scary to think what she might do or not do.

  • 72. Jerry  |  August 15, 2007 at 3:17 pm

    I am amazed at the depth of the ignorance of liberals. This country doesn’t owe you anything. It’s the other way around. Also, Hillary Clinton’s only claim to fame is that she was married to the worst President in this country’s history. Why do people that seem to care about others, want to destroy our economy, disband our military and put MTV types in the White House?
    Sell everything you have. Give it to the poor. Go live off the land. Eat roots and berries. When the enemy comes again, like 9-11, suffer the consequences, qand don’t ask for billions more in handouts. Hillary and Bubba are both grifters who have made MANY millions of dollars by deceiving the ignorant. Aren’t you proud? They went to DC with nothing. NOTHING! They are both multi-millionaires! Why can’t you idiots see the light?
    Excuse me while I puke!

  • 73. jwilson94115  |  August 15, 2007 at 3:19 pm

    The greatness of a country is not judged by its military might, or by how well the top 1% of its people are able to live, but by the quality of life available to its poorest, weakest citizens.

    How have the poor and needy in the US fared under the Bush administration? How have the wealthy fared under the Bush administration?

    Could you pay all of your monthly bills, keep your car running and insured, keep your family well fed, clothed, healthy and well cared for, and have anything left over to save for a rainy day if you were paid the minimum hourly wage?

    Do you think that you could do it if you had to pay 60% of your earnings for your child’s daycare so you could be able to go to work at your minimum wage job?

    How well has the Bush administration responded to the devestation of Hurricane Katrina? How well has the Bush administration responded to its friends in Halliburton, and in the Bohemian Grove?

    The Bush administration has been worse than a total failure. They are like the people who ran Enron: gangsters who steal from the people of the US to line their pockets and those of their wealthy friends (including Bush family investment partners, the Bin Ladens.) They should be removed from office and jailed for their crimes.

    Instead they will trade their offices in the White House for their offices at Halliburton, The Carlyle Group, etc. – the people they have always worked for.

    It is disheartening to me that the newly elected Democratic Congress has done nothing to remove Bush from office. It is the same old business as usual going on with the Democrats too. Perhaps our government system has been so screwed up by special interest groups and lobbyists that it is beyond fixing now.

    At least Hillary Clinton has taken early control of setting what the topics of discussion will be for this election.

  • 74. Nate  |  August 15, 2007 at 3:30 pm

    Forget about the ad. Every ad from here on out it going to throw dirt. Wow, she was able to read a script that someone else wrote. Way to go.

    Has anyone watched and actually listened to any of the debates. Hillary has yet to answer a question without stating the Bush Administration. This woman has a lot of complaints and no ideas.

    Bottom line she is not right for “MY” next commander and chief.

  • 75. smokeyhiker  |  August 15, 2007 at 3:39 pm

    To Jan: Bill clinton did nothing but train people now in line with now terrorists. Bill clinton knew where bin ladan was and FAILED to act. Another thing Clinton did was fire cruise missiles at the terrorists training and some didn’t go off and the middle easterners got them and sold it to places like china. DONT tell me about Bill clinton and don’t be a clinton apologist

  • 76. Kathy in CT  |  August 15, 2007 at 3:41 pm

    Go Hilary….tell it like it is! I think she hit on the nail! Bush is in his own world – dream world. If Bush wan’t so wrapped up in tryin to figure out how to “be President” maybe he would actually do something worthwhile. Yes, he has helped Seniors with RX Costs but in the mean time everything else has gone to hell in a handbasket!

    I am not saying Hilary is it but I know for sure bush is NOT it!

  • 77. notreeslifewillcease  |  August 15, 2007 at 3:42 pm

    Here’s a mind-warping prospect : Will ANY of it matter while/since our PLANET is burning up? FACT!! : Each and every acre of TREES “SEQUESTERS” about FOUR (4) METRIC tons of carbon annually … that’s 8818.48 POUNDS of carbon each YEAR per ACRE!!! FACT!! : Since the year of 2000 (to the date of 8/10 of each year) 35,553,246 ACRES have burned in this country ALONE!! ( http://www.nifc.gov/fire_info/nfn.htm check regularly as it INCREASES daily!) That does NOT account for floods, tornados, ice storms, etc., ETC.!! It does NOT account for INDUSTRIES/DEVELOPEMENTS/PROGRESS which are ALLOWED to bull-doze away FOREVER thousands upon thousands of ACRES of TREES each year!!! For EVERY acre of TREES lost it AUTOMATICALLY allows 8818.48 MORE pounds of carbon in our atmosphere where it had once been “SEQUESTERED”!!! It does NOT account for the INDUSTRIES/DEVELOPEMENTS/PROGRESS increased emissions of toxic/CARCENOGENIC diesel, silicon dioxide (which ALSO causes TB!!!), etc., ETC.!!! While the average ‘Joe’ is being told to recycle, use plastic instead of paper bags, use electronics to do business to “preserve” our LIFE SUSTAINING, AIR FILTERING, OXYGEN PRODUCING, EARTH COOLONG TREES the “system’ ALLOWS their demise for MONEY!!! In an e-mail from : ‘Project Leader & Research Social Scientist Natural Environments for Urban Populations Northern Research Station, US Forest Service’ she stated, “At the Northern Research Station we conduct research for ‘policy makers’ and ‘stakeholders’ to use in making land management decisions.” Q : What part of NO TREES – LIFE WILL CEASE needs “research”, and WHO are the “STAKEHOLDERS”?? A : CARBON CREDIT MARKETS allowing carbon-emitting businesses to BUY ‘credits’ from “carbon-sinkers” – – privately owned forests for example. Currently carbon credits SELL for $3.40 per metric ton on the voluntary Chicago Climate Exchange (CCX). They go for around $30 per metric ton on the international, government-sanctioned European market (EUETS). WHO knew you could BUY STOCK in “AIR”?!!! Every body! Buy your ‘share’ NOW while there’s still a FEW : LIFE SUSTAINING, AIR FILTERING, OXYGEN PRODUCING, EARTH COOLING TREES left!!! WHAT EVER!!!! FACT : NO TREES – LIFE WILL CEASE!! PRAYERS – PATIENCE – PEACE

  • 78. Fairtax  |  August 15, 2007 at 3:55 pm

    Charlie is right. Perhaps Hillary should try living among us “middle class” folks for a while and leave her ivory tower. Perhaps she could get a reality check. “Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day (and show him that he doesn’t need to learn to work or fish and models for his family to be lazy, dependent and have a sense of entitlement to handouts which follows generation to generation [professional welfare families] the government “owes” me – aka liberals) teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime (he learns a skill, personal responsibility, earns his way and can pass that on to his family-leaving a legacy of work ethic and personal responsibility-aka “the right”)”.
    BTW-Abolish the IRS and implement FAIRTAX-THAT candidate will get MY support!

  • 79. Press1forEnglish  |  August 15, 2007 at 4:11 pm

    Many of you blame the Bush administration for many things. You blame him and FEMA for hurricane Katrina, you blame him for the war in Iraq. When our soldiers come home injured you blame him and his government for not giving them the care they deserve. You blame him for the budget deficit. The list seems to go on and on.

    If this is how you feel, then you should vote for a Republican in 2008 who believes in Federalism. I say “Republican” because there are no Democrats who believe in Federalism.

    Federalism is a term used to describe a system of government in which the sovereignty is constitutionally divided between a central governing authority and constituent political units (like states or provinces). Federalism is the system in which the power to govern is shared between the national & state governments.

    The framers of our constitution purposely created a federalism, where the powers of the centralized government were very limited. However, as time has gone on, the Federal government has slowly gained more and more power. With every session of congress that meets, a little bit of our liberty is lost and the powers of our states are eroded. Every branch of government today weilds more power over Americans and the States than at any time in American history.

    The Legistlative branch, whose job is to authorize spending now has a $3+ trillion budget, an approval rating in the teens, and they are asking for more money, and higher taxes. 535 Americans, many of whom have been in Congress longer than I’ve been alive direct the flow of $3+ trillion dollars every year. It is not difficult to see how many have been corrupted by that enormous power. That works out to be more than $5.6 billion for each member of Congress. Much of that power should be returned to the people and the States.

    The Executive branch has also siezed more power via the Patriot Act, and other political maneurvorings.

    The worst offender is actually the Judical Branch whose role in all of this should be nothing more than ensuring the constitution is respected and followed but in fact this group of 9 lawyers now decides the law of the land based on political affiliation.

    As the great Ronald Reagan once observed, “No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. So, government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we’ll ever see on this earth.”

    Now that we are in the thows of the 2008 Presidential race, what candidates out there are proposing that the Federal government return to the concept of Federalism? Who is proposing limiting the centralized governments power? Every one of the Democratic candidates want to create the largest Federal entitlement program in human history, and they call it Universal Health Care. Not only is the mere idea of this unconstitutional but it will broaden the power of the federal government like no other program ever has. Every problem that this country faces, the Democrats have a solution that involves an expansion of the Federal government.

    So I ask my fellow Americans on the left. Do you want George W. Bush in charge of your Universal Health Care? The rationale behind a limited centralized government is that throughout the coarse of history bad leaders will get elected. But we the people will be protected from such bad leaders because the true power of our country does not reside in the Oval Office, or the houses of Congress, or within the Supreme Court, it resides in the constitution. No matter how bad a leader we manage to elect, so long as their power is limited, America will survive. However, the more power we thrust onto these leaders, the more precarious our position becomes. Many of you may “trust” Obama and Hillary with your Health Care, but it is dangerously naive to think that in your life-time, and your childrens life-time that America will not elect another leader that you will despise even more than GWB. What will American do if by that time we’ve already handed over all the reins of power to that office?

  • 80. chris  |  August 15, 2007 at 4:22 pm

    oh please. All politics is is an attempt to splinter groups of voters, and get them to vote for one or another person. Neither political party, and certainly none of the “front runners” are any different than Bush, Clinton 1, Or any other President in recent times. All these poeple are interested in is taking from those that disagree with them, and giving to those who support them. it’s mindnumbing. Hillary, Giuliani, Obama, Podunk-whoever, they all are in it for something that is unspoken: power and money. But in the meantime, they get peopl etot argue amongst themselves, on silloy websites like this, about matters that are ultimately meaningless. way to go, people, keep it up. The culture wars are winning over the real war: freedom versus tyranny.

  • 81. kenneth mcknight  |  August 15, 2007 at 4:28 pm

    thank you for this we need more people to see what we really have in the white house

  • 82. Loki  |  August 15, 2007 at 4:36 pm

    To Fairtax: Amen to that!!

    Invisible? What a joke. The government knows exactly where I live come tax time.

    Instead of bashing Bush (always a popular topic among the left), I would really like to hear Hillary address her plans for, in no particular order, the following items:

    1. The rapidly dwindling Social Security fund

    2. Terrorism and Islamic extremism

    3. Special interest groups and lobbyists

    4. Will NAFTA be renegotiated?

    5. Nuclear energy, drilling in ANWR, off the coast of California, Virginia and in the Gulf of Mexico

    6. Illegal immigration

    7. Exactly what will “Hillary Care” cost me?

    8. Will a Fair Tax be implemented…or even considered?

    9. What new and pointless social programs can we look forward to?

    and lastly: 10. Is it boxers or briefs?

    Press 1: Sadly, the Founding Fathers are doing tailspins in theirs graves even as we type.

  • 83. Vince  |  August 15, 2007 at 4:44 pm

    gizzarro said,
    “If they are happy & free why are our men & women still there dieing . it doesn’t hold true only a moron could support this president or anyone linked to him.”

    Thats actually “dying” by the way. Go sign up for an english class before you decide who the morons are. It saddens me to think that people like you determine the fate of our country.

    This reminds me a little bit of something one of our former presidents once said. “Ask not what your country can do for you, but…. What the hell, who wants another handout?”

  • 84. Miss Fox  |  August 15, 2007 at 5:15 pm

    I am not a real fan of Hillary myself but I definately think George Bush is the freakin anti-Christ, he has hurt us all and instead of opening our eyes to the utter turmoil that HE has created we are too busy trying to survive. Have any of you heard of the New World Order, have any of you actually been watching as to what their big plan for us all is. Do you all realize that if Hillary is elected into office of the President that will mean that two families will have and have had control over our country for over a decade. DANGEROUS!! I think we need someone new, someone who has not already been bought and sold so many times to change their opinion. Hillary hasn’t been honest in the past. BUSH is a known Liar and if we the people don’t acutally stand up and open our eyes to the TRUTH we will find ourselves just products to those in power and we will have no rights left.

  • 85. awomanwithnoparty  |  August 15, 2007 at 5:33 pm

    I agree with all those who said our system is a broken one. We the people no longer matter to politicians. They care about their bank accounts, their private jets and supporting the party line, whatever party that may be. Republican, democrat…they’re all one in the same and they don’t give a damn about us. They don’t listen to what we want and affect legislation accordingly. They only support their party’s agenda, and pander to loudest lobbyists, acting only to ensure a long and lucrative career sitting on their asses in Washington.

    I feel I have no government that works for me and my best interest, or the thousands and thousands of us in the middle class. They work for themselves, their party and their money. That’s it.

    Hillary…Obama…Juliani, Romney….They’re all the same. Pick your poison. Face it…no matter who you choose, we’re in for 8 years of just another greedy jackass.

  • 86. creamycake24  |  August 15, 2007 at 5:54 pm

    hay pepole! try http://www.clubpenguin.com and play!

  • 87. notreeslifewillcease  |  August 15, 2007 at 6:06 pm

    O.K.- for the more ‘intellectually & politically’ minded I will pose a more direct Question : WHEN, and the time IS at hand, there are NOT enough …LIFE SUSTAINING, AIR FILTERING, OXYGEN PRODUCING, EARTH COOLING TREES to maintain and sustain LIFE … what DIFFERENCE will either ‘party’, ANY candidate, WHATEVER stance you may believe/take … MAKE ??!!! To replinish what HAS, and CONTINUOUSLY IS being depleted from our LIFE SUSTAINING AIR FILTERING, OXYGEN PRODUCING, EARTH COOLING TREES it would take through the lifetime of my seven (7) GRANDCHILDREN … (& ONLY if every man, woman, and child on the PLANET were to plant a TREE each and EVERY year for the rest of their LIVES!) … to make a DIFFERENCE!!! Oh, but … NO ONE is going to LISTEN, much less enact ANYTHING of/with concern because we’re too busy “debating’ the POLITICAL sides!!! WHAT difference does/will it make WHO gets into office WHEN & WHILE our LIFE SUSTAINING, AIR FILTERING, OXYGEN PRODUCING, EARTH COOLING TREES are ever-so rapidly disappearing?!! NO TREES – LIFE WILL CEASE !! PRAYERS – PATIENCE – PEACE

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  • 89. HillaryRocks  |  August 15, 2007 at 9:00 pm

    Well, As I read all the Negative on Hillary (Started by some fellow by the name of CHARLIE) in which a few Others jumped in, This I want to relate to you all: Hillary Will WIN in 2008-That is Fact peeps. You can say all you want about her..What’s funny to me while I read on WHY you dislike or have you bad and Incorrect judgement about her is what it boils down too: She has “Confidence, She can look intimidating (But she is just a thinker), She is Intelligent, She can/will tell it like it is (Like one should be able to do) ect. Now, how in the world is this BAD for america..I will just say to charlie “Dude, you need a reality check on women on how you view them” Women are not weak and meek, and just wanna stay home a bare babies and take care the house and bake damn cookies all day! To the women who agree him: “Like Hello, Hillary is represents what and who we are, and how far we can achieve”! Think on this: Would you not want to sit next to your mother, daughter, aunt, grandmom the day she is elected and see and be able to say: “Wow, we have come a long way, and we deserve to”??????? I mean seriously!

    TO BUTTERFLY: The reason why her health plan did not go thrugh as she WANTED is because a bunch on knuckle heads called republicans Who had control over knockin it out (Basically, like taking a pie, and smashing it in her face, then laughing afterwards) did not want it to pass, and they had that power, because they had control at that time. All you gotta do, is research, and what i am sharing is true..Don’t just take my Word for it 😉 “Research”

    Anyhow, to all others…Yea baby!!! Hillary….Finally, America will belong to those who build upon and work hard in this country The poor, the lame, the middle..more importantly: We will not be “Invisible”!!!!!!!

  • 90. Dan Recine  |  August 15, 2007 at 9:12 pm

    Hillary has no room to talk when it comes to “invisible.” Look at all those women that accused Bill Clinton of assaulting them…I guess they were invisible too.

  • 91. Kelly  |  August 16, 2007 at 6:09 am

    Look, we all have our opinions and the great thing about this country is that we’re entitled to them and to share them. Regardless of what we think of Bush’s tactics in getting into and handling the war, the bottom line is this: on Sept 11, 2007 some people in this world decided to blow up a few buildings. That was an act of war. Bush – AS WELL AS CONGRESS because that is they way our system is set up in the constitution (the President cannot declare war unless supported by Congress…even after Pearl Harbor the President had to have the O.K. by Congress) – went to war. I think any President, Republican, Democrat, or Independant, would have done the same thing…anyone of us would have. Bush, as much as we do or do not support Bush, will admit there were mistakes made and lives lost. But who here hasn’t made a mistake, and how many of those mistakes cost lives? I think of Murderers, Women who get abortions, Rapists, Serial Killers, etc…those are all mistakes that cost lives.

    Hillary, as part of Congress and with the rest of congress, is supposed to work WITH the president and the other members of our government, to run this country. To stand up and TALK about how much the president screwed up is not amounting to anything UNLESS she can do something about it. Of course the President can’t please everyone – No president or ruler of any country has ever done that in the histor (and pre-history) of this world. The point is, Congress and other members of government are supposed to help the president do this. Thats why there is a House of REPRESENTITIVES! To REPRESENT us. HELLO! Thats also why there is a Senate…to balance out the gaps in populations by giving the same amount of votes to each state: The house based on Population and the Senate to give equal votes. You don’t even know you’re own government! For the Senate, Hillary is half the NY State’s vote!

    Okay, I don’t like to argue…I like to point out the obvious. When we vote these people in, we take the responsibility for what they do upon ourselves. We elected them, We have to live with them. Its as simple as that people!

  • 92. megi7  |  August 16, 2007 at 7:19 am

    i won’t even take the time to read all the comments of the people who hate hilary.
    She is an amazing, strong and worrier woman. Ok, fine she’s not perfect but nobody is.
    If you have all these opinions then why didn’t you try to become politicians, because you couldn’t , because you don’t have the courage. So what, if she hasn’t done some things, at least she is very hard-working. But beyond it all, always remember that she is a human being.
    So, before you start talking bad about her, think how far she reached with all her work and courage, think of the war she has done to protect her country. If you were in these amazing positions you wouldn’t even be able to kill a mosquito. So stop all your nonsense. (Adressed to the haters)

  • 93. alba  |  August 16, 2007 at 7:35 am

    Hillary clinton is an amazing a stron and amazing woman. Unlike some other presidents she is actually trying to do something for this country. She was doing many things when she was the First Lady even though sometimes sher plan was rejected and you might dare to imagine how much she is going to do when she will be the President of United States.

    PS. For the haters
    Stop hating we know Hillary is the best thing that happend to United States and the whole world!

  • 94. Stephanie  |  August 16, 2007 at 7:42 am

    Universal Health Care, 2 things:

    1. The lack of coverage for Americans has nothing to do with those Americans not working hard and doing everything in their power to make ends meet. This is 2007, not 1953 and things HAVE CHANGED. The heath care system is broken, the insurance companies have the government wrapped around their little finger, businesses are going broke trying to pay for employee health care, and unless you’re wealthy you cannot afford to pay it out of pocket no matter how careful you may be with your money. The system is broken and needs to be fixed, period.

    2. The controversy over this issue boggles my mind. No other modern nation on this planet denies the security of guaranteed health care to its citizens. This is not some grand experiment – the grand experiment is running a country like the United States WITHOUT universal health care. What kind of humane government lets its citizens die because they’re priced out of the care they need to get better? If we do that we’re no better than animals. It ought to be a crime.

  • 95. Hillaryforprez  |  August 16, 2007 at 8:05 am

    To smokey hiker:

    You said ‘bill failed to capture osama bin laden’

    Bill authorized special forces invasion of afghanistan and somalia in ’98. They were going to helicopter in and refuel by night. The republican congress shot it down and right wing officials prevented that from ever happening.

    If you know how to read, pick up Dick Clark’s book and understand the facts of Clinton’s presidency and not some right-wing propoganda BS. Bill TOLD Bush’s people to focus on Bin Laden, and they didn’t hold a single meeting on him for 9 MONTHS. 1 year later, 9/11

  • 96. southsider  |  August 16, 2007 at 10:02 am

    How soon we forget. It was not only Bill that had legal issues during his term(s) in the White House. Hillary had her share of issues as well. She is certainly a self serving, lying, deceitful, and most of all dishonorable person. It turns my stomach to read the supportive posts on this site.

  • 97. callong  |  August 16, 2007 at 10:05 am

    so what is so strong and amazing about her? that she stood by her “man” during his comings and goings, is it just that she is a woman, are there no other strong and amazing candidates? (former Hanoi Hilton resident John McCain?)

  • 98. Ryan  |  August 16, 2007 at 12:03 pm

    I dont work for the president, he works for me and as far as I’m concerned, he’s fired.

    Oh, and for you right wingers that think there is an immigration problem, try to google NORTH AMERICAN UNION and read up on it. Then let me know how you feel about YOUR president.

    P.S. – Bill Clinton for 1st lady.

  • 99. Dangerous Dave  |  August 16, 2007 at 12:05 pm

    Stephanie, maybe you should do a high school field trip to a hospital. Nobody get turned down there, it’s against the law. And the healthcare system is not ‘broken”. The USA has the best healthcare in the world because we have the least amount of government meddling in it.

    Yes, it’s expensive. Yes, the health insurance companies are charging a lot. Insurance would be cheaper if Americans were allowed to choose which insurance they had, but they don’t. You can thank politicians for that one.

    The Demos think they’ll run on a promise to knock down our healthcare system, which is the best in the world, to the status of the system in England where women routinely die waiting for breast cancer treatment. Ireland also has “universal” healthcare, but their citizens are also burdened with paying for their own private health insurance because the government provided system stinks. IN essence, they are paying twice, both for the care they are not using and for the insurance so they can get treated by a private provider.

  • 100. Tanya  |  August 16, 2007 at 12:11 pm

    Mia have you ever heard of a thing called, “Seperation of Church and State?”

    and to the person who thinks Hillary wants to pull our troops out immediately… “youre trippin.” Hillary called for a timeline, and wanted a plan to pull them out gradually.

    dont bash Hillary unless you know exactly what shes for and against. youre criticising what you dont understand. and its a genuine fact that Hillary is the MOST QUALIFIED for the job, whether you like it or not.


    BARRETT (11:08:55) :
    Icant believe how many mindless idiots are out there that can honestly come on here and try to discredit anything that hillary has said ,the poor are invisible to the entire bush administration ,i for one have been buying gasoline on my credit card just to be able to make ends meet and there are the rich snobby pricks who say get a better job well if everybody had better jobs who would do your dirty work you morons everybody has a place in society and i have accepted mine but that doesnt mean my family should have to suffer with inferior health care or that our children should have to go to iraq and fight for g.w. bushs oil
    … I couldnt agree with you more. and you know what disappoints me even more now, the gas stations in my area are no longer accepting credit cards. we need change and we need it NOW.

  • 101. Ryan  |  August 16, 2007 at 12:20 pm

    Oh, and this is kind of great to the current administration as well. Has to do with Iraq.

  • 102. Myles Miller  |  August 16, 2007 at 12:39 pm

    To those who talk of health care in this country, let me state this-Every time an uninsured person goes to the hospital and get medical attention (resulting in surgery and recovery), the hospital always will have a loss. Because they do not have the necessary funds to pay their end of the bill, they will get treatment because it is law and also the hospital will begin budget meetings to increase the amount of rooms, medicines, OR theaters, ER rooms, administration, payroll, and other misc. costs due to the fact that the hospital will never see those monies coming in. The insurance company is not my doctor-The drug companies are not my doctor. My doctor is my doctor. I am 48 years of age and have seen more disgust in our government then most of you who I presume have not reached 30 yet. If we took power away from the insurance and drug companies and gave it back to our doctors nurses and other health care providers, then we would be able to obtain at anytime the treatment we need right at that very critical moment. Lives would be dramatically saved and we would have a strong and healthy citizenry. People would be far healthier to work, therefore less sick days and more productivity, strong and healthy children who would not let sickness deter their rightful access to education, and maybe a strong and health senior citizenry that can provide us with the wisdom of the ages. We already have in place the infrastructure to a National Health Care Plan. Here they are.
    1. Problem: Will I have a choice of doctors-Yes.
    In order to become a doctor to practice in any state-they must get certification through the American Medical Association. Just because they have the diploma and passed the State Board-They must also be certified by the AMA.
    2. Problem: If anything goes wrong will I have the right to bring suit-Yes.
    According to HMO’s, they cannot be sued if the insurance company is at fault, and also the doctors are also protected in that I see that they cannot afford the current malpractice insurance that they are umbrellaed in this organization, that if any of these doctors whose records are with the AMA will probably show them to have had many occurrences of malpractice. Therefore, according to the 1st Amendment to the Constitution, we have a right of redress of grievance, in other word the right to sue, or bring to court.
    Now with this information you make the call. Are you so much loving the status quo, or do you want to see and experience change in how we do business in this arena. It is your choice. Do you want to go to your doctor’s office and or hospital with your wallet to pull out your life savings , or go to your doctor’s office and or hospital and leave your wallet behind. The Choice Is Yours!

    Thank you,
    Myles Miller
    Charlotte, NC

  • 103. s.hall  |  August 16, 2007 at 12:46 pm

    I heard a story on CNN about a man who killed his wife because he could no longer afford her $700.00 a week medical bills. This husband and wife, had they lived in any other nation would not have had to worry about medical bills which could bankrupt them. There is something very wrong when a President cares more about running the world than making life better for ordinary Americans. Iraq war has cost 500 billion, expanding Medicare would cost 120 billion. You say Bush is not running so why should Hillary bash him. Every Republican is running is a Bush clone. Bush doesn’t ignore us when it comes to spying. However, when it comes to our problems we are invisible.

  • 104. metaljaybird  |  August 16, 2007 at 2:31 pm

    What is different between Hillary and Bush?

    Not much.

    I find plenty of blanket statements about Hillary, but nothing of substance to encourage me to vote for her. I am voting for someone that actually has principles. Ron Paul.

    Voted against the war in Iraq
    Voted no repeatedly for congressional raises.
    Hands back his senatorial office budget
    Wants to end the IRS
    Wants to give us an alternative to nationalized health care (SS)
    Wants to implement quick withdrawal from Iraq (not some useless timetable that leaves the choice in the hands of the terrorists).

    Why would you vote for Hillary? She is nothing but a former Republican with progressive leanings similar to neocons like McCain and Rudy.

  • 105. metaljaybird  |  August 16, 2007 at 2:32 pm

    Sorry, nationalized healthcare should say nationalized retirement.

  • 106. Dangerous Dave  |  August 16, 2007 at 3:51 pm

    MetalJaybird, those are some great points. The Media will not let Ron Paul out of their cell because they know that hands down, Paul represents the wishes of Americans more than anyone else that is running.

    Ron Paul is the only credible candidate that voted against the war. Anyone that says that they are voting against the war, but votes for Hillary or John Edwards is a fraud. If they really want a president that was against it in 2003 and has not wavered, then their candidate is Ron Paul.

    Unfortunately, 2008 will be like every other election year… most of us will go to the polls and vote for the lesser of two evils.

  • 107. S1Genocide  |  August 16, 2007 at 3:54 pm

    read about her relationship [strictly ideological] with George Soros.

    Thank you. I hate the Newt Gingrich and Ron Paul supporters who always say she won’t legalize marijuana on a state by state basis for adults over 21. If it were not for Bill and Hillary Clinton we would not have Marijuana decriminalized in states like California, Nevada, or Alaska.

    Hillary is for Marijuana Legalization but you will never hear her say it.

    The Clintons donated to MPP and MoveOn.org So you wouldn’t have state laws like this:


    If It weren’t for: Bill & Hillary Clinton, George Soros, The MPP, Norml and MoveOn.org.

    I would also like to thank Mia for proving my point that there is a sect of Christians spreading hate and trying to start the apocalypse on purpose. You call Hillary Satanic? I call you a Satanic Nazi. Bush is in Skull and Crossbones and religious fundamentalist like you always fall for the hate that put these evil people in power. Fighting Muslim fundamentalist there to force Christian fundamentalism here. I swear the Muslims Christians and Jews got together one day:
    Muslims: I want Mohammed back
    Christians: I want Jesus back
    Jews I want: Abraham back

    Christians: Hey I know lets get together start world war 3 and we will have our saviors back.
    Muslims: Alright.
    Jews : Great idea.

    Just a little note If you succeed and cause a man made apocalypse Jesus is sending the right wing Christians to hell when he comes back.

  • 108. S1Genocide  |  August 16, 2007 at 3:59 pm

    The omen she defused, proverb, unto her another tabernacle built. – Belonging to Hillary, going chief. -Nostradamus

    The omen she defused, (The apocalyspe, The myth, The cataclysm.)

    proverb, unto her (The people will speak highly of her)

    another tabernacle built. (Another Church built, Another Building built, Another Corperation built)

    Belonging to Hillary, going chief. (Because she becomes president.)

    If Hillary Clinton is president in 2008 America will be rebuilt and saved from the apocalypse.

    Also found in the bible codes.

  • 109. Angie  |  August 16, 2007 at 4:21 pm

    Maybe Hilary isn’t the ideal president. She is the best candidate we’ve had in a long time. I tell you what- what we’re doing right now sure as hell isn’t working! What we need now more than anything is a major review of where are government funds are drawn from, and where they’re going to. There needs to be a cap on the income gained by holding political office, there needs to be a cap on charges for legal assistance, We need to apply more to education. Teaching someone how to fend for themselves is step one of what can be done about the poverty in America. We need to quit bitching about gas prices – it’s not going to magicly become more abundant! and make more fuel efficient cars. We need to realize that the money we use on public services- cool down the town programs and other disaster relief- is going to get way more expensive if we don’t become more environmentally friendly. Not only do we need to discuss these things- we need to take action towards actually doing them, and not spend so much time calling each other dumb asses! Guess what? Nobody knows everything- life is a trial and error process- we as humans have errored. No it’s time to fix it. Dumb asses! lol.

  • 110. Stephanie  |  August 16, 2007 at 4:22 pm

    Sorry to break the news that I’m not in high school, Dave. But thanks for the condescending implication. Attending my 10 year reunion next year.

    Maybe no one gets turned down at the emergency room, but you can bet they go without cancer treatment and prescription drugs day after day and month after month, and then they die.

    If other countries’ national health care systems suck so badly, then for god’s sake we should be able to create a much better system for our citizens. We are America after all. If we claim to be so great, let’s prove it.

  • 111. Tammy  |  August 16, 2007 at 4:36 pm

    Hillary is smart, tenacious, and has more experiecne than any other canidate by far. History needs to repeat itself.
    Bush screws up with war..Clinton fixes. Bush screws up with another war…. CLINTON WILL FIX IT!!

  • 112. To MIA may God forgive your Ignorance  |  August 16, 2007 at 4:51 pm

    First of all I’d like to say that I don’t know who you are or how you’re raised, if you don’t feel that a woman has the right to lead this country, you might as well say she should be seen and not heard- so shut up.

    You speak of pure ignorance, and the more attacks you experience due to your idiotic belief system, more you will feel justified, martyred even. The problem with religion in politics is that there are religious fanatic morons like yourself- ones in support of God, Allah, and any deity- that tear society apart based on ingrained backwards beliefs based on roughly translated manuscripts written under totally different circumstances than what we have today.

    I’m not saying that there is not a God, Because the Lord knows I believe. But did he write the Bible? NO. Men did. IN LATIN! Have you ever read the Bible? The original manuscripts? Do you read Latin? So how the hell can you ask an entire country to base their society on a belief system you have no plausible foundation for?

    I’m not arguing religion. I’m quite simply saying that there is more than one religion, more than one belief system, and only ONE United States. There is an intelligent was to do this that has nothing to do with basing government policy off of a book written thousands of years ago (ANY BOOK) that cannot be completely accurately translated. That goes for this country, all Christian, Catholic, Jewish Muslin countries. YOU WILL never agree! Work around it or there will be nothing left but a failed attempt at life.

  • 113. Ed Tajchman  |  August 16, 2007 at 4:56 pm

    I would love for Hilary to win the election, but Obama is the true liberal voice and is gaining a lot of support. He voted ‘no’ on the war and has a high ground to stand on. The question is who will get support from that 10% of independents and swing voters that wins you the election. Has much has I would love for Hilary or Obama to win the answer to that question is John Edwards

  • 114. Daisy  |  August 16, 2007 at 5:40 pm

    I had dinner with my childhood friends the other night, and even in our 40’s 2 out of 4 of them do not have health insurance. It’s too expensive. I work for a healthcare organization, and I thank God that they give us the benefit of insurance as part of our job. Knowing what it costs now, I would never be able to afford it. For a family of 3, it costs, at times, more than rent on an apartment in San Diego. Do we need healthcare reform? Absolutely! And Senator Clinton has been behind this for as long as I can remember. As for our current administration, of all the people I know, only one supports Mr. Bush, and if asked why, he has no valid reasons that I can see. We need a change!

  • 115. Rebecca Gomez  |  August 16, 2007 at 5:43 pm

    Contrary to what some may think, Hillary Clinton will make a great President for the United States and we the People who are the voters of this country, are demanding the change necessary, to take our country back from the hands of the failed policies of the republican party because this is the only choice, americans have if we want to have a safe planet and affordable medical access for everyone as Hillary Clinton has tried to achieve for years, and this is just one of the fattest facts in our Country, that Hillary has the best background and qualifications to be President of the United States and we will honor her as our President as she deserves it for fighting for our rights to basic human needs since the time she was first lady in her husband’s great legacy Presidency. Let there be no doubt, that Hillary Clinton is more than qualified and the people of this country have right to take our country back! from the failed policies of republican administrations because enough soldiers have died for Mr. Bush’s political agenda and now its time to take our country back with the only one who can help us achieve that which is the most Honorable Hillary Clinton, a well known member of the Democratic Party which is a pillar for the minority rights in this country and the underclass and middleclasses of the country, who have perished, under the Bush.com/Cheney Administration, the worse, administration in the history of the United States and a disgrace to the political history of our nation.

    My support for our next President of the United States is grounded on the evidence I have seen throughout the years since 1992, in the public life and Presidency of Hillary and Bill Clinton, one of the most peaceful and prosperous presidencies in history who gave women the right to more time with the births of our babies without losing our jobs and if Hillary didn’t do more it was because the vicious republican agenda in the majority in Congress at that time, did not permit the Presidency of Bill Clinton to do more otherwise, more would have been done so we have nobody to blame for all the pollution in this country but the coal energy companies pumping billions of pollutants into the air daily that we need to stop if our planet is to survive and based on what I have seen of the Clintons, I honestly believe truly in my heart, Hillary will make a great leader for our country and that she is the most trusted candidate in which we can trust, she will keep her promise to our country and our nation will be better served, under a Hillary Clinton Presidency, of this the world can be assured.

    I say to those who are lost to the republican brainwashing system, do yourselves a favor brothers and sisters and reject the dangerous republican policies that lead nowhere but division and destruction because after all, we only got one life to live and why not enjoy all our years in health and easy access to cure diseases before they take over and its too late due to lack of medical access? Today a man killed his cancer stricken wife because he could not meet the medical monetary demands to keep her alive and according to the news he may get off on one year since the crime was committed in a fit of passion over the desperation of not having money to obtain medical access, with HILLARY, this will not happen and I am sure, this would not be happening in our country today if the Clintons were in office yet this is what is happening today because of an appointed good for nothing republican president.

    I say Hillary Clinton will be President because she is the best choice latinos in the mexican american community have as well as the african american community and anglo major races in the country who are affected by bad policies in Washington and who have for too long been subjected to the consequences of failed republican polices which have led us nowhere but to an unecessary war causing thousands of needless deaths of american young troops and its time to put to the war in Iraq, something our next President also promises to do after being deceived by the bush/cheney administration along with WE, THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES who were lied too about the reasons for going to Iraq because this is just the way corruption at the highest levels in republican parties, operates but NO MORE MR. BUSH, we are tired of the lies and no longer will this country vote republican for a long time because if God has seen what the republican policies have done to his planet and earth, then I am sure, he is worried and we the people have an obligation to protect the people from the destroyer of earth which is the republican party.

    Long live the Presidency of Hillary Clinton for being the only choice Americans have at this time in history when people are dying of cancer and infectious diseases at an alarming rate and when it has become apparent that the only hope is the DEMOCRATIC PARTY, a party that stands behind the needs of the people and who fights for our equal rights and justice in the courts for we the people of this country are helpless,,,,,,,,,,,,without the democratic party.
    Please in the name of God and what belief may be left after all the perversion in the catholic church, do yourselves a favor and help elect the next best
    President the country ever had who with her policies turned this country around and blessed the nation with the recovery from the republican doom, George Bush put our country in.


  • 116. Rebecca Gomez  |  August 16, 2007 at 6:16 pm

    Oh and before I forget, to the “south sider” I say, where have you been all the years, the republican party exploited millions of dollars to run the political witchunt on the Clintons? The entire world knows that Whitewater was a master plan by the republican party to assault the Clinton Presidency with our tax dollars and that while this political witchunt took place, not much happened in the domestic agenda of the country otherwise, we would not be fighting for access to universal health for everyone 15 years later, so get real people, History speaks for itself and in 1996, in spite of the venomous and poisonous whitewater political scheme President Clinton was re-elected to office because the people of this country, we are not going to allow our selves to be the assistants to the dangerous republican political agenda and so this is the reason Hillary Clinton will now be president, because she is the most qualified and is loved and respected and is a role model for women in this country when she has faced the abuse of power by her enemies with her forehead high because she is an honorable person and was found to be innocent of all the accusations period!

    I say to anyone who wants to oppose the Presidency of Hillary do so at your own peril and find yourselves on a lonely road of despair under republican failed dangerous policies which have given this country nothing but debt and added to the national debt and caused thousands of unecessary deaths of young american troops and to think real hard about where do you want to see yourself ten years or five years from now in a planet polluted to the point where nobody and nowhere is it safe to breathe if we dont stop air and water pollution in its tracks and for the record buddy,,,,,,,,,,,let me remind all those objected to the Hillary Clinton Presidency, the Presidency of Bill and Hillary Clinton is on record for reducing the arsenic levels in U.S. tap water which the bush/cheney administration raised back up to 50 parts per billion from the 10 parts per billion ordered by Bill Clinton in 1993 under his Environmental Protection Agency,

    Yes indeed, in one of Mr. Bush’s first moves for the destruction of human health was raising the arsenic levels back to 50 parts per billion until now in 2006 when the Bush.comCheney Administration, yanked it back to the previous 10 parts per billiion ordered by Clinton’s EPA, this means people that if it is a known medical science fact that arsenic in levels of 10 parts per billlion is already dangerous, then in what conscience, did the Bush/.comCheney admin. raise the acceptable levels back to 50 parts per billion putting the nation at risk? There is no doubt that with republicans in office, our healths dont count because its the energy corporations making the decisions in Washington and we need to change this wrong and corrupt attitude in republican administrations in Washington in November 2008.

    I would say look around you that most cities now have smog alerts and people are dying of cancer left and right and in Austin, Texas tobacco smoke is banned inside every public place because to this, our country has come under the control of the corporations who donate millions to the republican party to have the green light to finish off the human race with sickness and diseases caused by the pollutions permitted under republican administrations in our country, I mean this are hard to swallow facts but this is the plain and simple truth , that when something is not good for you or our children, we get rid of it and replace it with something better which is our aim in the November 2008 elections for the sake of the country, the people and our planet.,

    Hillary Clinton will be great leader for our country and comes at a time when even republicans are going to vote democrat simply because this is the only choice americans have and what a better choice than a democrat we can count on to do the job for us in Washington and who has the experience and wisdom and knowledge to take our country forward instead of back under republican policies counterproductive to the country and dangerous for the human race.

  • 117. lynda  |  August 16, 2007 at 9:10 pm

    Hillary will be a great president

  • 118. star_frm_sf  |  August 17, 2007 at 2:25 am

    Charlie, you are a idiot….I and millions of other people seem to believe that Hillary would be a great leader, and besides even if I wasnt a democrat or Hillary supporter, you or anyone else cant honestly think that what we have now in office is in any way good for us. Im sorry charlie, you arent the idiot Bush is!!!!!!!!!


  • 119. metaljaybird  |  August 17, 2007 at 11:58 am

    Haha, Hillary has the leadership characteristics of a chameleon. She’d be a leader similar to Bush or Clinton.

    Whitewater? Democrats are still stuck on that. It was a scam through and through on the Clinton’s part.

    If you are truly against this war, then don’t vote for Hillary. Vote for Ron Paul. Yes, I’ll speak about Ron all I want, because I think he is the right person for the job.

  • 120. Rainbow13  |  August 17, 2007 at 12:38 pm

    Those who would use the Bible to support their notion that Hillary being a woman should not be running for president; or those who believe that wives should be totally submissive to their husbands, only demonstrate how little they know of the Bible or what Jesus actually said, as quoted by those who wrote it; and how little they know of the world outside their immediate tiny circle. Therefore, their ability to analyze and make conclusions based on a sound analysis, is also very limited. Poor things.

    But the wonder of wonders, even with facts staring them in the face, they still cannot see how many times Bush has lied to the country; caused thousands of dead people, Americans and non-Americans, despite his claim of being pro-life; kept stem cel research from progressing to find cures for diseases; etc, etc.

    Thou shalt not kill . . .
    Thou shalt not covet . . .
    Thou shalt not bear false witness . . .

    The bible tells of many great women:
    Deborah in the book of Judges who led the Israeli’s to war because Barak would not go if she didn’t. In that same war, it was Jael who killed the enemy’s General Sisera by single-handedly driving a peg through his temple. (Read Judges chapter 4)

    What about Rehab, a prostitute who helped Joshua’s men who gathered information about Jericho that allowed Joshua to take the city?

    How about Judith, in the book of Judith, who executed her own plan and killed the enemy’s feared General, when all the elders (men) of Jerusalem have agreed to surrender?

    And why did Jesus “hang-out” with Mary and Martha, and why did he reveal his resurrection first to women instead of his disciples?

    How about Paul’s friend, Priscilla who set up her a church in her own house and was a deacon?

    There are many other portions in the bible that would dispute whatever is stated in ICorinthians 6 or Genesis. And please realize that men decided what to include or not include in the BIBLE as we know it today.

    I cannot believe that a God responsible for the whole creation can be so small minded as to reinforce those very limited view of human beings.

    Hillary is one of God’s creation: talented, intelligent and only God can judge for sure what is in her heart. Jesus also said, “by your fruits you shall be known . . . ”

    Make sure, whatever negative feelings you have about ANYBODY, bush or clinton is based on the truth. Make sure to judge yourself first before judging others.

  • 121. Dangerous Dave  |  August 17, 2007 at 4:22 pm

    Stephanie, it’s funny you mention the cancer bit. My mother is from the UK and her and her sister (who stayed in England) both had breast cancer. My aunt and her husband got fed up of waiting for her to get treatment, and they decided to hire an American doctor. By the time they got done jumping through all the hoops and getting the doctor over to do her surgery, the cancer had already spread. She died at age 54.

    Contrast that with my mother. She was on the operating table within two weeks of her mammogram. She is doing great, and although she had to foot part of the bill, she’s alive to tell.

    We can sit here and say America can socialize better than anyone else, but when we look at public housing and public schools, you can see the direction that public health care would take our current healthcare system into.

    If you really do want socialized health care, here are some recommendations. First, you say you just had your 10 year HS reunion, which means you’re in the 27-28 range. Good news. You can still join the military on a waiver.

    If that doesn’t fit your idea of a good time, then maybe you should advocate for socialized medicine in your own state or your own county. That way, it’s localized. If individual states do their own public health care, then the other states that choose not to can still have their privatized medicine and not have to pay for a failure. Those “progressive” states that want it can have it, and if it’s so important to other “progressives” in the privatized states, they can relocate to a public health care state.

    That way, those of us that are self sufficient and don’t need a government babysitter can all move to Idaho, Montana (for now), Wyoming, and the Dakotas while you sissies non hackers can have Hillary nanny care all to yourselves.

  • 122. Mike  |  August 18, 2007 at 2:36 pm

    The Clinton’s are the best thing to happen to this country in years. They offset the lunacy of the Bushes and hopefully Hillary can repair all the damage ‘W’ Bush has done. She will return us to “the golden years’ of Bill’s predidency. Go Hillary!!

  • 123. Dangerous Dave  |  August 19, 2007 at 12:13 am

    That’s it, Mike! Set your sights for the gutter and Hillary will definately meet your standards.

  • 124. Linda  |  August 19, 2007 at 5:52 am

    To Mia:

    To use the Bible as a reason why a woman should not be in power is scary. The Bible says many things that people follow blindly, and yet, many of those things are completely wrong due to terrible translations (the idea that gay is wrong, for example, is a result of careful word changes during a translation). The Bible is furthermore full of inconsistencies, so to use it as an absolute authority is incomprehensible.

    Regardless of the Bible, the fact that one sex should rule simply because of their sex is ridiculous. Merit should be the reason for any job, not gender, skin color, or sexual orientation. The great thing about feminism was that it presented women with a choice: to stay home it that is what they desire, but to work and get educated if that is what they want. To deny women leadership of any kind BECAUSE they are women is nothing but appalling !!!

    Specifically regarding politics, I have heard different reasons why a woman should not be in charge. Someone told me that in case of a war a woman cannot be in charge because they would be soft. I believe Margaret Thatcher showed the fallacy of that argument. And for Hillary in particular, well, she was the only democrat that said that if the U.S. was attacked she would go after the attackers. No hesitation. Republicans love to play the terrorist card; that terrorists will follow us home if we don’t stay in Iraq. Obama is right when he says that the biggest threat to American safety is ill-founded American involvement in other countries, as well as arrogance when dealing with other nations. U.S. foreign policy has angered people who were not previously mad at us, and not just hostile nations: allied countries are mad too. Bush’s arrogance has pissed off most the world, despite the fact that the U.S. had sympathy around the world after 9/11. If anyone knows the value of diplomacy, it is the Clintons.

    –Some think she is power hungry. Maybe she is; but so are most other politicians, so that is not much of an argument against her.
    –Some say that she lies. Maybe she does; but she does most politicians, and she doesn’t lie about reasons to go to war…

    Frankly, I am proud of Hillary that a) she is running for something that has been predominantly a (white) male domain, and b) that she is leading the race to the White House. Make no mistake about it: Hillary has the qualifications to run this country. Bush, on the other hand, may be a white male (thus a better leader according to your argument), yet he has proven unable to run a country. So much for the gender reasons….

    Do I agree with everything she says? No. Do I think she’s a heck of a candidate? Yes. Though I think anyone will make a better president than the one we have, I think she will make a GREAT president !!!

  • 125. Joe Kewl  |  August 19, 2007 at 9:44 am

    My only comment to this is, sicne President Bush butchered the English language as much as he has, what else has he done to make this country look like a fool? If she is power hungry, then so be it… a little confidence and better command of the language might just result in the US looking better (not to mention getting rid of Bush’s strategeries.)

  • 126. Dangerous Dave  |  August 20, 2007 at 9:25 am

    Joe Kewl:
    Sure, Hillary may not seem like she’s trying not to drool when she speaks, or stumble on her speech. But if speech alone determines how the USA looks, she’s not the one. Her shrill shrieking puts hackles on my dogs back and gets me running for my earplugs. John Edwards and Obama both have her beat there. So do Fred Thompson, Sam Brownback, Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee, and Duncan Hunter. Notice I didn’t say Rudy… his bumbling is nearly as bad as Bush.

  • 127. hummingbird  |  August 20, 2007 at 10:28 am

    To : notreeslifewillcease
    Your inputs really caught my attention, first because you didn’t partake in the punch-&-jabs match of the others, then I checked out the site you suggested being the inquisitive realist that I am. ‘Mind-warping’, as you put it, is an UNDERSTATEMENT! As of 8/19, only NINE days after the date you stated, a total of 41,269,963 acres have burned within 7 years! That’s 5,716,717 MORE in 9 days!! Given the fact that 4 metric tons of carbon per acre will no longer be sequestered, that allows an additional 3,377,863,931,624 POUNDS of carbon to our atmosphere!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!
    I, too question the sensibility of ALLOWING industries/developements to continue the satus quo & deplorable depletion of the “air filtering, oxygen producing, earth cooling trees”. Within about a 10 mile area of where I live, and I believe that ‘nothing affects just ONE’, this year alone a minimum of 2000 acres of trees, which HAD been standing forever, have been literally bull-dozed away FOREVER for such industries & developements. That allows an ADDITIONAL 17,636,960 POUNDS of carbon into our atmosprere WITHOUT the capabilities of EVER being sequestered!!! The IMBALANCE of NATURE is at the POINT OF NO RETURN!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!
    I have yet to hear any proposed candidate for president address the seriousnesss of this LIFE threatening situation! Perhaps they’re all oblivious to the fact that we need TREES to survive!!! Whomever he -or she – may be I PRAY the UNCONSCIONABLE devastation of our “air filtering, oxygen producing, earth cooling trees” WILL BE STOPPED!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!
    If not, it will surely constitute a form of massive chemical warfare as you: notreeslifewillcease proclaimed, “NO TREES – LIFE WILL CEASE”….FACT!!!!!!

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