Barack Obama: Homophobia is Not Christian

March 3, 2008 at 7:18 pm 42 comments

Again Barack Obama speaks out powerfully and passionately about his support for GLBT civil rights. This time in front of a predominately Black audience in Beaumont, Texas. For those of you unfamiliar with Texas, Beaumont is the reddest part of this red state and to have Barack not just speaking about gays, but declaring that homophobia is un-Christian is a powerful thing.

No other presidential candidate has gone to such lengths to repeatedly advocate for equality for GLBT people in front of non-GLBT specific audiences.

Click to read the Obama platform on GLBT civil rights.

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  • 1. Marianne  |  March 3, 2008 at 8:53 pm

    First of all, this is not to insult anyone who is gay. This is a comment on politicians who manipulate artificial but popular notions in order to get votes.

    Obama is playing on a false accusation against Christians to get political support. This decreases my respect for him for insinuating Christians are homophobic just to get gay votes. This also increases my sense that he is not as Christian as he says. This is because a true Christian would never promote such a comment just to make a good impression on people, knowing that what is insinuated is not true to begin with.

    Acknowledged: there are people who hate others, and they are unfair. They may hate you, but they also may NOT be Christian, but something else. Maybe they are just red necks. Society is made of good and evil.

    True Christians are not homophobic because we state homosexuality is a sin according to the Bible. That is just a statement of fact. There are many kinds of sins, and one is just like another to God. To us, we all need Jesus and the help of God. We have never advocated hurting anyone or fearing them because they are gay. They may want certain rights, but it should not be at the expense of the rights of others.

    This homophobic accusation against Christians is insulting, and in a way, is discriminatory and hateful in itself. It seems to be a reaction to the bible position. Not everyone in the world believes in or follows the bible. We accept that reality, and not everyone will line up with bible standards. So what? It does not bother Hindus, Muslims, taoists, Buddhists that they do not line up with bible standards. So it should not bother others either. If one does not believe in the bible, why would they care about what it says?

    As a Christian, I support kind and fair treatment for everyone. But the more Christians are accused of this homophobic nonsense, the more unlikely will be any friendship or peace between gays and Christians. In America, there are some issues that should unite us all, like protecting ourselves against terrorists.

    I wish people would work toward helping each other in life rather than promoting misconceptions and prejudices. I know I do not “fit in” here, but I wanted to say my peace.

    I think Obama is full of it. He is just allowing you to think christens are bad, but he is some kind of “Super Christian.” Well, he isn’t any better than any one else in the church. WE are all just as fair as he is. You can go ahead and vote for him, but I wanted you to know that he is bashing and misrepresenting Christians just to get on your good side.

    thanks for listening and best wishes to you.
    marianne
    http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/

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  • 2. Webster  |  March 4, 2008 at 9:55 am

    Going to church, Marianne, doesn’t make you a Christian any more than standing in the garage makes you a car. Evangelical/Fundamentalist Christians use their misinterpretations of the Bible exactly as a drunk uses a lamp-post–for support rather than illumination. I’d say Obama has pretty much got the Evangelical/Fundamentalist “Christians” pretty much pegged for what they are: homophobic.

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  • 3. Marianne  |  March 4, 2008 at 11:55 am

    If Obama disagrees with the Bible, then he is not a Christian.

    He follows another gospel, that is not the original taught by Christ. From what I can see , he is really a humanist, with a Christian label.

    Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

    He has changed his morals to please men and get elected.

    Gal 1:10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

    maybe gays have a few issues with hatred too ????

    People will do what they want, and believe what they want. But to claim to be a Christian and then assert that sin is not sin, as defined by the Bible…..is unchristian, and therefore promotes confusion as to what Christianity means.

    I am not asking anyone here to change their minds about what they want to do. I am saying to evaluate someone by the standards they claim to have.

    Obama claims to be Christian but rejects Christian morals. So maybe now he identifies with you, but will reject you too someday when it is politically convenient.

    If he cannot live up to what they claims he is, because he really believes something else, do you not think this discrepancy will continue ,when it finally affects how he feels about you too?

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  • 4. cooleyhigh  |  March 4, 2008 at 12:16 pm

    I still don’t understand how people keep saying Christians are ‘misinterpreting the Holy Bible’. How is it misinterpretation when it says in plain text that men should haven’t sex with men nor women with women?

    I know I didn’t write that and put it in there. And if the Holy Bible is GOD’s Holy Word, then I guess HE is the one responsible for the text on sexual immorality.

    It’s in the Old Testament, but just so you don’t start in with the petty, ignorant questions about eating pork or making sacrifices, it’s also written in the New Testament.

    24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

    Romans 1:
    26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.
    27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

    It doesn’t take a genius or much ‘interpretation’ to understand what this particular part of the Holy Bible says ‘in the same way men abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another.’ That sounds like homosexuality, doesn’t it?

    And, yes, there are plenty of so-called Christians that totally misrepresent Jesus the Christ’s name. They’ve existed since he was earth and started gaining followers and they exist up until this day. They were in the Crusades, the Catholic Church (think Inquisition) and there are many of these idiots walking around with signs saying ‘GOD Hates Fags’…which couldn’t be farther from the truth.

    It says in the Holy Bible GOD hates sin, but HE has compassion for the sinner.

    So yeah, there are homophobic Christians, racist Christians, sexist Christians…basically anyone can call themselves a Christian. The world is overrun with Christians. But a true Christian reflects the behavior and attitude of Christ Jesus, so try them that way. If they say hateful, deceitful things, then they are still very much in the dark. If they behave with love and compassion, then they probably do believe in and understand Jesus the Christ. But people are allowed to have opinions without them being hateful.

    My belief, based on the Holy Bible, is that homosexuality is a sin, like every other sexually immoral act. And just because the words ‘homosexual’ and ‘sin’ aren’t used together, it doesn’t take a genius to understand what Paul is talking about in Romans. But I choose to believe in GOD’s written WORD.

    What in the Holy Bible has you believing otherwise? Show me where in the Holy Bible GOD accepts homosexuality?

    None of these questions mean I hate anyone. My goodness, what a lonely world it would be if we all went around hating each other for our sins. I don’t discriminate — only when it comes to hateful people…them I avoid.

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  • 5. Son of Bill Brasky  |  March 4, 2008 at 12:42 pm

    “They may want certain rights, but it should not be at the expense of the rights of others.”

    Listen to what you’re saying… that statement alone screams inequality.

    Most Christians make little sense to me.. they can condone war and the “collateral damage” that goes with it. They can wholehearted support the life of a FROZEN embryo yet have little compassion for LIVING children in Iraq.

    Here is where you are wrong. If a person wants to marry another person where is the issue there? How does your neighbors marriage affect yours and your right to marriage? When someone BREAKS the sacrement of marriage by getting a divorce how does that affect your rights? So I ask, how does gay and lesbian marriage affect your own?

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  • 6. peak9  |  March 4, 2008 at 3:08 pm

    Once again, Obama displays his ignorance. Marianne and coolyhigh get it right. Webster and Son of Bill Brasky are misguided. Christians are not homophobic simply for following their faith and speaking out against perversion. Yes, homosexuals are perverted along with rapists, child molesters, and beastiality enthusiasts. There is no phobia from Christians, only obediance to God’s Word. Maybe, homosexuals are Christophobes?

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  • 7. Marianne  |  March 4, 2008 at 6:13 pm

    To son of bill :
    Christians have orphanages all over the world taking care of young children. we have lots of compassion. We spend millions maybe billions of dollars each year on the poor, homeless, orphans, feeding programs, helping disaster victims. Can you tell me how many gay groups are involved at this level of commitment?

    All sexual sin is wrong.

    By declaring that homosexuality is not a sin, Obama denies the teachings of god and jesus. so he should call himself a humanist or something else.

    The fact that I am this patient shows love. I have this argument on another site, and I have been attacked about 90 times, and I have never been hateful to anyone. I am just trying to explain the bible position on this and that Obama is disagreeing with the bible.

    peak9 and cooley high : thank you

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  • 8. Michael Crawford  |  March 4, 2008 at 7:23 pm

    What is so fascinating about a number of the comments here is that the people commenting are exemplifying the kind of homophobia that can be found among some Christians that Barack is pointing out.

    A number of you such as cooleyhigh, Marianne and peak9 try to justify your anti-gay attitudes by pointing to the bible. Peakp even goes so far as to try to say that GLBT people are Christophobes because we speak out against religiously motivated anti-gay bigotry.

    You do more to prove Barack’s point than anything else.

    Your distorted view of Christianity does not give you license to attack or harm GLBT people, Just as the distorted views of white supporters of slavery did not justify their enslavement of African people.

    Try as you might to use the bible to justify your bigoted beliefs, it just want work.

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  • 9. Marianne  |  March 4, 2008 at 8:04 pm

    Michael
    These are false accusations. but that seems to be all that can come from the far left.

    If I quoted another source to show what its contents were, so you could see what it said, then I would continue to be accsused of the same things.

    the tactics here of the far left is to vehemently and falseyaccuse, and then sit back and make Christians defend themselves.

    The bible speaks for itself. And Barack is a fake christian is he does not adhere to what is taught in the bible.

    gays have proven themselves here to scorn any reference to the bible or what Jesus taught. they are therefore christ- o -phobes, odophobes or bible-ophobes by their own admission.

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  • 10. Michael Crawford  |  March 4, 2008 at 8:23 pm

    marianne,

    When did God name you judge and jury? I want to know because you seem to think that you are in the position of deciding who is and who isn’t “real” Christian.

    Gays have not as you say “proven themselves here to scorn any reference to the bible or what Jesus taught.” There are in fact many of us who hold strong religious/spiritual beliefs, but because we believe that God loves and values us as gay people you claim that we are against the bible.

    Let me be clear. We are against people like you distorting biblical teachings to try to justify your bigotry and prejudice. If you hate gay people, have the courage to say that without trying to say that the bible made you anti-gay.

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  • 11. Marianne  |  March 4, 2008 at 9:29 pm

    Michael
    The bible clearly condemns homosexuality. It is not my judgment. I do not hate anyone. I am just making the bible position clear. The bible is also clear that those who intentionally reject God’s standards of holiness cannot enter the kingdom of heaven. I respect God’s standards. And I oppose sin like I am supposed to, but I can still do this without having bad feelings toward the individual. You may not understand this mindset, but that is the way I am. I can separate the sin from the person, reject the sin, and love the person.
    thanks

    thank you

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  • 12. Webster  |  March 5, 2008 at 5:36 pm

    First of all, Marianne (why am I wasting my typing energy on this? *Sigh*), It’s “Bible,” capitlaized, when speaking of the book. Secondly, which Bible? KJV? NIV? NKJV? NRSV? RSV? NEB? REB? Just to mention a *few* translations. And, how steeped are you in Aramaic? In Hebrew? In Greek? In Latin? Words change their meanings over centuries–and through translations–and they even change their meanings from one era of English to another.

    Marianne, if you *are* a Christian, you *should* know that Jesus reduced *all* the laws of the prophets to just two: 1. Love God, and 2. Love your neighbor. How is your haraunging people on this blog an example of the latter? You are not displaying love, you are displaying a closed mind and a heart without love or empathy.

    I could explain to you how your *version* of the Bible (God did not speak originally in King James English–and by the way, King James was bisexual…) has been mistranslated from the Hebrew in Leviticus–but you don’t want to learn, you simply want to inflict your misguided *beliefs* on others who wish to have no part of your weltanschaungen. Do NOT tell me, or Obama, or anyone here, how to believe, how to worship, and how to understand Christianity. You simply haven’t the right to do that. Now begone–before someone drops a house on *you.*

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  • 13. Marianne  |  March 5, 2008 at 6:58 pm

    Jesus told sinners to repent.

    If you obey law #1, Love God, …God says ” if you love me, keep my commandments.”

    refusing to obey shows the lack of love.

    I display love by obedience to him, and telling you the truth….trying to explain and teach. there is no lack of love…that is a false accusation.

    So far the behavior I have encountered has been hateful, but I have been patient in return.

    You believe in what is called “another gospel”….which is a deception…you will continue to disagree with me…which is fine…i just wanted to offer the information.

    thank you

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  • 14. Webster  |  March 5, 2008 at 9:36 pm

    At this point, my dear, it’s not hate at all. It’s excruciating boredom.

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  • 15. Marianne  |  March 6, 2008 at 7:08 am

    Have a nice day. God bless you.

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  • 16. Webster  |  March 6, 2008 at 8:52 am

    Michael,

    To riff on John McBush:

    Ban, ban, ban. Ban Marianne…

    😉

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  • 17. peak9  |  March 6, 2008 at 10:53 am

    Christians are not being judgmental by speaking out against homosexuality. God is speaking out. Christians do not approach the issue from a worldly pespective. They are not applying human logic and wisdom, but God’s wisdom. God is judging homosexuals, not Christians. Christians are just the messengers. This is a distinction that intellectuals cannot comprehend.

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  • 18. Marianne  |  March 6, 2008 at 11:01 am

    Somehow, they have been lied to and they have been told that sin is ok, as long as they have some kind of physical love for others. They also have been lied to and told that fornication is not a sin. They also have been told they do not have to repent.

    But Jesus said:

    Mar 1:14¶Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
    Mar 1:15And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

    Rev 2:20Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.
    Rev 2:21And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.
    Rev 2:22Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

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  • 19. Webster  |  March 7, 2008 at 5:01 pm

    “Only a small number of passages in the entire Bible reference same-sex sexual activity (six out of sixty-six books of the entire Bible). Obviously this topic was not of great concern to the biblical writers. Yet these verses have been used to justify hatred, condemnation and exclusion of God’s lesbian and gay children.

    The word ‘homosexuality’ is a modern term and did not exist during biblical times. Biblical writers had no concept of sexual orientation or sexual development as we understand those today. Therefore, passages that reference same-sex sexual activity should not been seen as comprehensive statements concerning homosexuality, but instead should be viewed in the context of what the ancient world that produced the Bible understood about sexual activity.

    SODOM

    The men of Sodom want to ‘know’ (yadah – a Hebrew word that can mean sexual intercourse) the foreigners who have come to Lot’s house. In essence they want to rape them in order to show their social and cultural dominance over them.

    This story is not a condemnation of homosexuality, but is a story about rape and inhospitality. In other biblical texts (Ezekiel 16:49, Luke 17:28-29) Sodom’s ‘sin’ is not identified as homosexuality, rather, their sins were pride, failure to help the poor, and lack of hospitality to foreigners.

    Leviticus

    You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.” (18:22)

    “If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death; their blood is upon them.” (20:13)

    These verses are part of the Holiness Code in the Old Testament book of Leviticus (chapters 17-26) that attempted to spell out ways the people of Israelwould act differently than their Mediterranean neighbors. In light of the previously mentioned sexual practices of Israel’s neighbors, it becomes clear that this prohibition in Leviticus was an attempt to preserve the internal harmony of Jewish male society by not allowing them to participate in anal intercourse as a form of expressing or gaining social and political dominance. These verses in no way prohibit, nor do they even speak, to loving, caring sexual relationships between people of the same gender.

    So do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdomof God? Do not be deceived! Fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, sodomites, thieves, the greedy, drunkards, revilers, robbers—none of these will inherit the kingdomof God” (1 Corinthians 6:9-10).

    “The law is laid down not for the innocent but for the lawless and disobedient, for the godless and sinful, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their father or mother, for murderers, fornicators, sodomites, slave traders, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to the sound teaching that conforms to the glorious gospel of the blessed God” (1 Timothy 1:9-11).

    There are two major issues to consider when one approaches these passages: translation and sexual practices of Greek culture. A comparison of these verses in several translations of the Bible indicates that there is some confusion about how to translate two Greek words in these lists of vices Paul has enumerated. The two words are arsenokoitai which is rendered in various translations as “homosexuals,” “sodomites,” “child molesters,” or “perverts” and malakoi which is rendered in various translations as “catamites,” “the effeminate,” or “boy prostitutes.”

    These Greek words are difficult to translate in the context of these passages. Malakoi is a common term and means “soft.” It can refer to clothing (Matthew 11:8) or moral matters, meaning “undisciplined.” Arsenokoitai is a rare word and is made up of arseno meaning “man,” and koitai meaning “bed, lying, or having sex with.” When put together the word may mean “male prostitutes.”

    Abusive relationships are what the apostle Paul is referencing, not mutually loving and caring relationships between people of the same sex.

    When dealing with matters of biblical interpretation one always needs to keep in mind the role of the authority of the Bible in matters of faith and practice. While the Bible is an important witness to the relationship between God and humanity, it is not the ultimate revelation of God—Jesus Christ, the Word made flesh, is. We must guard against what some scholars have called bibliolatry—making an idol out of scripture.

    Excerpted from The Bible and Homosexuality
    By Rev. Mona West, Ph.D.

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  • 20. Marianne  |  March 7, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    God’s commandments and what He meant were very clear to 4000 years. They still are to those who respect Him and what He says.

    Just because a group of people decide to have their own version of things does not make “truth.” God’s word is truth, NOT your opinion or interpretation.

    People did not rebel against God word like you do today. He only had to tell them a few times, and they got the point, especially when homosexuality and other sexual perversions got the death sentence. They were being reminded not to be like their Canaanite neighbors.

    Sodom had many sins but was destroyed due to sexual perversion. They would not repent, as people do not repent today. They were therefore considered an abomination and destroyed.

    Mona West is NOT God. Her personal opinion is irrelevant, and her gibberish is foolishness to God.

    Since you live in disobedience to God’s word and prefer the writings of some atheist, then you are not qualified to make assessments on biblical interpretation.

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  • 21. Marianne  |  March 7, 2008 at 5:41 pm

    ps….. and do not insist that foolish woman is some kind of Christian. She is an abomination herself, and is a godless fool.

    God knows what he means, and he made it clear.

    your private interpretation to change scripture after 4000 years is not acceptable

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  • 22. Webster  |  March 7, 2008 at 5:43 pm

    There’s nothing quite like the sound of a mind snapping shut.

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  • 23. Marianne  |  March 7, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    sarcasm is no argument against God’s truth.

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  • 24. Webster  |  March 8, 2008 at 4:19 pm

    It is against your God’s truth.

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  • 25. Marianne  |  March 8, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    There is only one God. Try being open for a change. What are you really afraid of that you have to attack so much?

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  • 26. Michael Crawford  |  March 9, 2008 at 9:26 am

    Marianne,

    Are you serious when you say “There is only one God.” then in the very next sentence tell Webster to “try being open for a change?”

    You have dismissed every other religion and claimed that your religious beliefs are the only ones that are true. It is people like you who use religion to justify their prejudices and bigotry who are doing great damage to Christianity.

    I know that my words won’t have any effect on you. You have made up your mind and cherry picked bible passages to support you and have now closed your mind to everything else.

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  • 27. Marianne  |  March 9, 2008 at 9:36 am

    God and the bible has sent the same messages for 4000 years.

    yes, I do dismiss other religions…they do not have the truth of God…just man’s opinion.

    you are the one cherry picking and changing the content and interpretation.

    change back to God and what he says…..

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  • 28. Michael Crawford  |  March 9, 2008 at 9:54 am

    Marianne,

    Thanks for stopping by to confirm that you are indeed the kind of closed minded, self-righteous person that I thought you might be.

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  • 29. Marianne  |  March 9, 2008 at 10:11 am

    and you are closed minded to God’s truth outlined in the bible…..

    so do not cherry pick from a book you do not believe in.

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  • 30. Michael Crawford  |  March 9, 2008 at 10:38 am

    How do you know that I have not read the bible. Are you jumping to conclusions because I don’t believe the same things you do?

    Keep it up Marianne. You are doing a great job of proving my point about you being closed minded and arrogant.

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  • 31. Webster  |  March 9, 2008 at 12:15 pm

    Marianne hasn’t answered any of my questions, dismisses the best in modern theological scholarship, and seems to live happily in the 12th Century. She’s indistinguishable from the Taliban, can’t see beyond the end of her prejudiced nose, and seems to think she has the right to tell other people how to live their lives. All we can really do is ignore her mindless, brainwashed ramblings–and feel sorry for her.

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  • 32. Marianne  |  March 9, 2008 at 12:25 pm

    I have correctly explained the bible to you.

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  • 33. Marianne  |  March 9, 2008 at 4:19 pm

    the “modern theological scholarship” is atheistic heresy, with humanism replacing the Word of God..

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  • 34. Webster  |  March 9, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    Here’s a thought, Marianne: God works in mysterious ways. Maybe God keeps sending you back to this site because God wants to reveal something to you. Maybe God wants you to learn something beyond blind dogma.

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  • 35. Marianne  |  March 9, 2008 at 7:53 pm

    The bible does not make us blind, but helps us see. I was trying to help you see that. But you seem to be more influenced by man’s philosophy than what God clearly states.

    God is not in your lives yet, so you cannot understand what I say.

    I wish you the best. I hope someday you can see what I do so clearly. Jesus forgives and saves, when we are honest with Him and confess our sins before him.

    bye

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  • 36. Webster  |  March 9, 2008 at 8:59 pm

    You don’t know if God is in my life–you know nothing about me, but that doesn’t stop you from judging me. Amazing. Perhaps you should confess your sins of hubris before Jesus and ask for forgiveness? You don’t have faith, you just have a bloated ego you can’t see around or through.

    Buh-bye

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  • 37. lady3ug  |  March 10, 2008 at 5:54 pm

    At least he’s putting his ass on the line to show that he does support gay rights. We can only speculate as to his true feelings and motivations, but at this point in time I don’t really think that playing to the LGBT community can be seen as strictly a ploy to get more votes. There are a lot of people out there that will drop Obama & Clinton like a rock when they hear that they support gay rights.

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  • 39. Zara  |  March 27, 2008 at 9:38 pm

    Regarding Marianne its funny to see that the religion your parents give you and tell you is correct will always and forever be correct when science specifies otherwise……

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  • 40. Gumina  |  June 4, 2008 at 10:06 pm

    Homophobia: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuals.

    The bible clearly points out that homosexuality, lying, cheating, using God’s name in vain, adultery, etc. are sins of the same rank, so to speak.

    To me homosexuality is a sin, so I am not homosexual, though I think that has more to do with the fact I am attracted to guys. But I also believe that your sexual orientation is between you and God, even if you don’t believe in Him. I mean, if you don’t then you have already had your confrontation with Him, or lack thereof.

    I believe that God doesn’t hate anyone and that He just wants to have His children believe in His name, because he loves us. And that’s what God is: Love.

    I think that we, as Christian and as anyone else in this world, should love everyone– friends, family, enemies– no matter what. We should pray and encourage them to get saved, and if they already are, I think we need to help them stand strong in their faith. And if they don’t then we should keep pressing it, but back down and let it be.

    I don’t think that if you believe homosexuality is a sin means you are automatically homophobic. Unless you think that “God hates fags”, which isn’t right. Calling gay people fags or faggots, I mean.

    So maybe Obama is real in his support of Gay rights. Maybe he isn’t just trying to get votes and he wants GLBT people to feel really equal to straight people, or however you want to say that. I have to say I agree with him.

    Getting to the point now, though: Based on what we’ve been trying to get at in this country since the beginning– you know, freedom to be who you want to be– I think I would be supporting Gay rights if I ever ran for president. I mean, some people just want to be married to the person they love, and since this is America, I think they should have that chance. I may not agree with them completely, but I know that they deserve the chance. Seriously.

    And if you don’t agree with me on any of this then you can say so, you know I don’t even have to give you permission. But just one thing I ask you is that you don’t judge people. Actions may speak louder than words, but it’s all in the heart. Really. There are good people–Christians and non– everywhere and there are bad people– Christians and non– everywhere. We all say, do, and believe things that hurt other people, but try to look past that.

    Oh, and what’s up with ‘They may want certain rights, but it should not be at the expense of the rights of others’? I mean, beliefs and rights aren’t the same thing, right? Gay people can be Christian, too, despite what you think, since anyone who believes in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit– sorry for being so trite, or whatever the word is. I mean, that is why they say that when they’re baptizing someone. But, anyway, they are living in this country and they, like I said, deserve the chance to get what they want and be who they want to be with fear of persecution. And people persecute people because of their religious beliefs, too. Like someone has most likely done to you in your life. Imagine how they feel because I’m sure you can.

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  • 41. shawn  |  November 7, 2008 at 9:52 pm

    I was just wandering how many christians have not broken a commandment. Although, homosexuality is mentioned as a sin there are several other things we are not supposed to take part in like not eating pork, or not eating shellfish, wearing mixed clothing. I am not saying that homosexuality is not wrong, or that our Father did not say it is an abomination. I would hope that we were all like the rich man that had followed every commandment in Matt 19:16-24. Yet, he still was unable to enter the kingdom. Everyone has sin in their lives if you believe Our Father. When the woman was caught in adultery what did Christ say? Let he who has no sin cast the first stone! I see a lot of christians casting stones, but not bringing any sinners into the chruch, which was who Christ was sent to save. First, cast out the branch from your eye that you may see clearly to remove the splinter from your brothers eye. Christ gospel was about the kingdom of GOD, which is within you if you are a christian. Please, do not cast them out suffer all the little children to come to Christ and he will do the rest.

    We are to be brothers of Christ freeing the world from it’s confused state. Has President Bush followed the gospel of Christ, did president CLinton, did president Bush, did president Reagen, did president Carter. Please tell me which one claimed to be something other than a christian or which one of us follow Christ’s every commandment. Was the last president a rightous judge? Maybe we need to look whitin ourselves and change US and stop worrying about what the president thinks or says, he is not OUR GOD!

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  • 42. Craig  |  February 3, 2009 at 7:01 am

    Webster said “King James was bi-sexual”. This a Roman Catholic lie peddled by the Jesuits to destroy people’s belief in the authority of the Bible. The 1611 Bible is the Word of God. All modern perversions are an attack against God’s Word. The Bible says Homosexuality is a sin against God Almighty. No ifs buts or maybe’s. Reprobate minds who must repent or burn in Hell.

    PS. Obama is not a Christian. He’s a phoney Christian obeying his popish masters. Serving the Roman anti-Christ!

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