Gay Marriages Haven’t Caused Fall of Western Civilization

August 10, 2008 at 10:09 am 7 comments

In a frenzy befitting the most histrionic of drama queens, anti-gay right-wingers claimed that allowing gays to marry would be the fall of Western Civilization and all life as we know it. As this article from the Houston Post looking at Massachusetts four years after same-sex marriages became legal shows, the homophobic rending of hair and gnashing of teeth was much ado about nothing.

When Michele Frost and Mary Helen Walker enrolled their 3-year-old daughter, Shea, in preschool, it required a change in the school application form. But it was no big deal: Officials simply substituted the words “mother” and “father” with “parent 1” and “parent 2.”

When they got their marriage license, city employees behind the counter were more interested in the child than they were in questioning the two lesbians about their relationship.

“We have been greeted so warmly,” said Frost, 42, who moved three years ago from Chicago to Quincy, Mass., just south of Boston. “We’ve just had a great experience.”

Nearly five years after the state’s Supreme Court ruled that a ban on same-sex marriage was unconstitutional, the battle that brought international attention and apocalyptic fears to Massachusetts is all but dead. Since the first marriages on May 17, 2004, more than 11,000 couples have tied the knot. They’re busy mowing lawns and hauling kids to soccer practice, and the sky has not fallen.

Of course, this won’t stop the theocratic right from bashing gay families to raise money and keep themselves in the news all while claiming to “love the sinner, but hate the sin.” They will just have to stew in their bitterness while LGBT people go about our business of building relationships, taking care of our families and fighting for our right to equal treatment under the law.


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  • 1. Pat  |  August 10, 2008 at 11:42 am

    The far right NEEDS to have a whipping boy and they have tagged the GLBT community as “it.” They need to have a yardstick for moral comparison, and they need to be on top of that yardstick to prove they are worthy of everlasting life with their Father in heaven. Which means, of course, that there must be other “bad” people at the bottom of the yardstick, like gays and Muslims, for comparison sake.

    The most interesting statistic associated with the Massachusetts gay-marriage law is that Mass. has the lowest divorce rate in the country! So, if gay marriage is detrimental to straight marriage, how could this be? But then the far right has never been known for it’s superior logical thinking, has it?

    Pat at

  • 2. Michael Crawford  |  August 10, 2008 at 2:48 pm


    The anti-gay right may needing a whipping boy to make themselves feel superior, but they should not expect us to lie down and take it. We will fight to protect our families and to achieve full equality.

  • 3. Pat  |  August 10, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    You bet Michael! They really need to be concerned with their own “closets” and not be worried about ours! I am sure many of them have nasty stuff to hide!


  • 4. Bob Summersgill  |  August 10, 2008 at 9:00 pm

    The people actively fighting us on marriage are not all that concerned about marriage or gay people. They are concerned about turning out dollars and votes. If we win in California, the issue will have all but played out for them, and they’ll be on to the next fear tactic.

    The fight against us isn’t as much generated by the Robertsons and Dobsons as it is by the Roves. There was Anita Bryant crusades in the 1970s. She was successful until our side, disorganized and largely isolated learned to fight back. When we started winning, her campaign collapsed. There was a wave of anti-rights amendments that were pushed in the early 1990s. Colorado’s Amendment 2 being the prime example. There were a host of look-a-like amendments, but the Colorado Supreme Court, and then the U.S. Supreme Court moved with surprising speed to strike them down. There was the short lived push against our adoption rights, and then they went after marriage. The first wave was a legal ban. It turned out voters in great numbers all over the country. Then when that played out, it was on to doing the same thing in state constitutions. And frankly, that has mostly exhausted itself.

    The next wave of attacks will be against transgender people. They are doing that in Montgomery County, MD now, and looking at other jurisdictions. Since the general population knows even less about transgender people than gays, it is a lot easier to spread fear and generate dollars and votes.

  • 5. Pat  |  August 11, 2008 at 6:37 pm


    Can you clarify? I understand the votes, but what do you mean about dollars? Do you mean the right wing leaders are making money off this fighting with contributions from a scared constituency?


  • 6. suchabastard  |  August 12, 2008 at 3:14 am

    First there were the people of England who were tired of the King’s tyrannous rule. They were persecuted and beaten down until they moved away to form America. Then there were the Continental Natives(Indians). White people beat them down and persecuted them and stole their land from them, forcing them onto Indian Reservations. Then there were the Africans. White men brought them to America as slaves and beat them down and persecuted them. During which, all this time, women in general were beaten down and persecuted for their gender. Now that all of this has been put beyond us, aside from a few select bigots, the white man, joined by the Native American and African American, and women, and those of all races, have chosen now to pick on someone else. Who? Homosexuals. Why? The human race has a terrible need for self destruction. It’s time to let go of that hatred.

  • 7. Pat  |  August 13, 2008 at 6:00 am

    Yeah, the shame of it is that certain people need someone perceived to be below them in order to feel good about themselves. After we gain our rights and acceptance, I wonder who the next underdog victim will be? And what is scarier is why can’t these people feel good about themselves just because of who they are? Ha…I know…because they are mean, that’s why! Mean people can’t feel good about themselves.



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